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Old 12-28-2005, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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veryone keeps talking about the dual core aspect of Yonah, but perhaps the best feature is VT, Intel's Virtualization Technology. According to this article, VThttp://www.nordichardware.com/news,2670.html is basically VMWare on a chip -- meaning that the new Intel Mac's will be fully capable of running OS X, Windows, Linux, OS/2, whatever, simultaneously in a system much like fast user switching, all with hyperthreading and dual core capability.

So everyone who keeps asking "can I dual boot?" ... "will there be a Virtual PC" ... you have no idea. This is going to be so much better. And as for the naysayers who cry "how do we know Apple will allow this?" remember Brian Croll's comment that Apple will not create any hardware to block users from installing Windows.
 
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This seems cool if us mac users as there are some stuff that I cant use my mac for (but not stuff that essential that I would ever use XP) but would this mean that we would be more open to viruses etc?
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Actually you can fairly much do that today. The Mac will run os x, and with the emulator you can run quite a bit of windows stuff, and Linux certainly runs on the Mac already. Of course with an intel processor and some clever programing it will probably be even easier in the future, though why anyone would want to run windows when os x is around is beyound me...
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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No, you cannot run 3 operating systems simultaneously today on macs. You cannot compare emulation to running natively, either.

Many people could find it useful to have windows for a few apps, and for games, while using OS X for everything else.
 
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What I would like, would not to see anything about Windows. Just, if I install a windows program, it just works. That would really bring on the 'it just works' theme. Install any program, and it works.

Yet you dont' see Windows and aren't susceptible to viruses.

I'll sing hallelujah and rejoice when that happens.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm just trying to figure out why people would want to ruin a Mac with XP... think about it, why bog down your Mac with Windows, plus anti-virus, plus anti-adware, plus anti-spyware, plus your Windows apps and kill the beauty of your Mac...
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Nobody can answer that question until the Intel Macs come out. Period.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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No, you cannot run 3 operating systems simultaneously today on macs.
In 1994 I sat in front of a DEC Alpha workstation which simultaneously ran WinNT 3.1, DEC VM & Unix. It was a right royal pain in the **** I can tell you.

Imagine having multiple windows on screen that all behave differently, some you can cut and paste or drag and drop between and others you cannot but there is no real indication as to which is which, each window gives a different menu on right click, each responds to different keyboard shortcuts, each has buttons and menus in different places etc etc.

It is a nightmare to use, heck it is bad enough having some apps use carbon and some use cocoa (and others like photoshop elements using something which I have yet to put a label on, what on earth is that mess?) imagine what your lovely OS X desktop would look like with say Win2000 and Linux Gnome windows on it as well!

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The virtualization technology built into both Intel and AMD's forth coming processors is a very nice feature. You don't have to run a different OS, as you could run multiple instances of OS X if you'd like. Quite often I find myself experimenting w/ different OS settings and such, or programs I've never used before, but I worry about screwing up my setup. You could always have a second instance of the OS running to test certain things before you do them to your main install.

Mac users will finally have the ability to Game on a Windows system. You don't always have to have the instance running so you don't have to worry about it eating your resources. A clean install of Windows XP uses less in the way of resources than a clean install of OS X. If all your using the Windows installation for is gaming, you don't have to have Anti-Virus or adware protection. If you do, these utilities do not bog down the system expecially w/ a multi-core processor.

As for Linux...it sucks as a home OS, so I don't see why anyone would want to run it. While still making gains in the enterprise market, the market share of Linux is going nowhere.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I personally am looking forward to getting a new mac with this technolegy as a pc user for the last 5 years. The last time I owned a mac was when os9 was out, and I liked it a lot. But, I bought a pc since I was getting into gaming at the time. Now... when I used osx, its SOOOO much different and I have to learn a whole new os. Now that I've been using a pc for so long, I'm just used to it. I found it somewhat obtrusive to store pictures/videos with osx where on windows you can just throw everything in a folder. XP almost seems more user friendly to me now...

FWIW My main use of my pc is for internet, e-mail, aim, and occasionally photoshop.
 
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As for Linux...it sucks as a home OS, so I don't see why anyone would want to run it. While still making gains in the enterprise market, the market share of Linux is going nowhere.
Why is it? I ran Mandrake for a good 6 months with no real problems plus with the installation managers that they have like portage, URPMI and synaptic are awesome once you have an internet connection and TBH id love to have a feature like that hidden away in OSX so that power users can take advantage of it even if its for simple stuff like getting widgets or updates etc from www.apple.com
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