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    Post Purported 13" Retina MacBook Pro benchmarks appear, launch rumored before Oct.
    Purported 13" Retina MacBook Pro benchmarks appear, launch rumored before Oct.

    As benchmarks for an unreleased MacBook Pro running a previously unknown build of Mountain Lion have appeared, a new rumor suggests Apple could launch its 13-inch Retina display MacBook Pro before October of this year.


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    Depending on the price, I could actually be interested in this one.
    I've always wanted to be smart, handsome and modest. But, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with two out of three . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razormac View Post
    Depending on the price, I could actually be interested in this one.
    Just add $400 to the current price of the two different 13" MBP models and that should give us an approximation of the cost. Probably also need to add $50 to the cost of Apple care.

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    Pretty much a "no-brainer" idea. We already have a 15" retina MBP...a 13" model was bound to follow.

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    That would be depressing unless they are actually going to put a real GPU in there. That would be a lot of pixels for the HD4000 to deal with and I have doubts on whether it can provide a quality experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethfel View Post
    That would be depressing unless they are actually going to put a real GPU in there. That would be a lot of pixels for the HD4000 to deal with and I have doubts on whether it can provide a quality experience.
    Very true...unless there was some sort of massive advancement with integrated graphics. It would certainly be the first time a 13" MBP came with a dedicated gpu.

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    Very true...unless there was some sort of massive advancement with integrated graphics. It would certainly be the first time a 13" MBP came with a dedicated gpu.
    Adding a dedicated GPU to a Retina 13" MBP will jack the price up even more....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Adding a dedicated GPU to a Retina 13" MBP will jack the price up even more....
    If they put a dedicated GPU in it I'm sold. I would love to have something that combined the best of the 15in MBP and the MBA in the smaller format.
    I've always wanted to be smart, handsome and modest. But, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with two out of three . . .

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    I'm with you. When I compare the Retina display on my 3rd generation iPad with my 2011 iMac, it's no contest. Don't know if I can sell my "treasurer" on spending more bucks on another computer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razormac View Post
    If they put a dedicated GPU in it I'm sold. I would love to have something that combined the best of the 15in MBP and the MBA in the smaller format.
    Im with you. I would happily upgrade my 13" 2010 model to a new Retina Display. Prices here in Aust are actually online with what you have over there now.
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    There's probably a fair number of buyers who purposely buy the 15" MBP's because of the dedicated gpu. If a retina 13" MBP comes with a dedicated gpu (because it may need it)...then there may be a lot less reasons (at least for a segment of 15" MBP buyers) to buy 15" MBP's.

    On the other hand...maybe there's some sort of "slick" integrated graphics hardware out there that can handle it...or some sort of "slick" software that will allow a 13" MBP to run a retina display.

    I'm not really sure...but how does "horsepower" of the graphics hardware in the iPad 3/new iPad (which is driving a 9.7" retina display)...compare to the integrated graphics of a 13" MBP. Anyone know?

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    Anyone know what resolution this 13" might have? The new 15" is already incredibly taxing on the GPU. I don't even want to know what the experience might be like with integrated graphics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iggibar View Post
    Anyone know what resolution this 13" might have? The new 15" is already incredibly taxing on the GPU. I don't even want to know what the experience might be like with integrated graphics.
    That right there is part of the problem even with the 15" - by default it's using the HD4000, and reading Anandtechs discussion on performance for general use of the retina (see: AnandTech - The next-gen MacBook Pro with Retina Display Review ) we don't know how much the GT650m is being used but I'd have to guess that for just general viewing it's primarily using the HD4000 which seems to struggle to even maintain 30fps for many common (mundane) actions.

    Granted, the 13" screen would be slightly lower resolution then the 15", but still the amount of pixels to push I feel IMHO is just too much for an integrated GPU like the HD4000 (yes, the HD4000 is a SIGNIFICANT improvement over the HD3000, but still...)

    I wonder who writes the drivers for the GPU for OSX - if it's Apple or Intel when it comes to the HD4000 - if it's Intel that might even be part of the problem since they've never been the best at creating high quality GPU drivers.
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    I wonder who writes the drivers for the GPU for OSX - if it's Apple or Intel when it comes to the HD4000 - if it's Intel that might even be part of the problem since they've never been the best at creating high quality GPU drivers.
    My understanding is it's a joint effort but primarily driven by Intel. Which makes sense since they're pushing their new on board GPU chipsets to the limit.

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