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    All looks great! Very exciting!

    I just wonder one thing:

    Will Siri work properly?? Sounds awesome but I've had a few phones with voice recognition in the past - including the iPhone 4 - and never work properly! Or if they do you might have well have used your fingers in the first place! lol
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    Engadget reported that when they tried it, it worked very well. Even without "training" the software to their voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustProofCorn View Post
    So I have verizon and AT&T. I have 2 upgrades for Verizon and no upgrades for AT&T can I get my upgrade from Verizon and use the phone on AT&T?
    Assuming that you are willing to pay the stiff termination fee for the 2 year contract that VZW is going to make you sign to get that upgrade, I would think so.

    Then again knowing the US carriers, they'll find a way to make this not work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baggss View Post
    Assuming that you are willing to pay the stiff termination fee for the 2 year contract that VZW is going to make you sign to get that upgrade, I would think so.

    Then again knowing the US carriers, they'll find a way to make this not work.
    Thanks for the reply. What termination fee? I have 3 phones with Verizon 2 are out of contract. I have 1 AT&T phone which is still in contract. I was gonna use one of my upgrades with verizon and just use it as my AT&T phone. I won't be canceling anything.
    60% of the time it works every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustProofCorn View Post
    Thanks for the reply. What termination fee? I have 3 phones with Verizon 2 are out of contract. I have 1 AT&T phone which is still in contract. I was gonna use one of my upgrades with verizon and just use it as my AT&T phone. I won't be canceling anything.
    One assumes that when you upgrade with Verizon you will be getting a subsidized iPhone 4S under contract and hence it will be "locked" to the Verizon network for at least the term of your contract. I don't believe you can then just put in an AT&T SIM and have it work straight out of the box. You will need to have the phone unlocked and pay the contract cancellation fee.

    The only way this would work as you would want to to buy an unlocked iPhone 4S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    One assumes that when you upgrade with Verizon you will be getting a subsidized iPhone 4S under contract and hence it will be "locked" to the Verizon network for at least the term of your contract. I don't believe you can then just put in an AT&T SIM and have it work straight out of the box. You will need to have the phone unlocked and pay the contract cancellation fee.

    The only way this would work as you would want to to buy an unlocked iPhone 4S.

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    im not going to cancel the line just not use the phone under that line.. when i broke my iphone 3g i just bought a go phone used it on the line. canceled the data package and never had a problem.. i understand the part about the phone being locked to verizon (which is what my question was) i am just not understanding the part about the cancelation fee when i will not be canceling the line.
    60% of the time it works every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustProofCorn View Post
    im not going to cancel the line just not use the phone under that line.. when i broke my iphone 3g i just bought a go phone used it on the line. canceled the data package and never had a problem.. i understand the part about the phone being locked to verizon (which is what my question was) i am just not understanding the part about the cancelation fee when i will not be canceling the line.
    Although the IP 4S will be both CDMA/GSM capable, a subsidized phone from Verizon will likely not recognize an AT&T SIM as it will be "locked in" on the CDMA Verizon network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Although the IP 4S will be both CDMA/GSM capable, a subsidized phone from Verizon will likely not recognize an AT&T SIM as it will be "locked in" on the CDMA Verizon network.

    Mark
    Thanks for the reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Although the IP 4S will be both CDMA/GSM capable, a subsidized phone from Verizon will likely not recognize an AT&T SIM as it will be "locked in" on the CDMA Verizon network.

    Mark
    That's actually a big question yet to be answered. A subsidized phone would likely be locked to the network that subsidized it but if you are willing to pay there termination fee they should be willing to unlock it. If they will remains to be seen.

    Quote Originally Posted by RustProofCorn View Post
    im not going to cancel the line just not use the phone under that line.. when i broke my iphone 3g i just bought a go phone used it on the line. canceled the data package and never had a problem.. i understand the part about the phone being locked to verizon (which is what my question was) i am just not understanding the part about the cancelation fee when i will not be canceling the line.
    That upgrade will be subsidized by VZW and in return for the subsidy they will expect to extend your contract for another 2 years. If you are willing to pay the unsubsidized price (upwards of $600) then you can do what you want with the phone. That "upgrade" isn't really free, it's a way to keep you on their network longer and keep your business. Don't be under the illusion that ANY of the carriers are doing you ANY favors with upgrades, they are just trying to keep you paying that monthly fee. The cancelation fee comes when they discover that the device that is "tied" to their network, is removed from their network before the end of the contract period. It's an automated process these days. They see that as a cancelation and will bill you accordingly. This does't happen within the carriers network, like when you simply replaced one VZW phone for another (i've done the same on AT&T) only when you decide to switch to another network before the end of the contract period.


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    I am personally disappointed with the 4S release. For the cost of the upgrade I'll think I'll wait for the bigger screen. I like the assistant, however, only for the 4S was another disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbinva View Post
    I am personally disappointed with the 4S release. For the cost of the upgrade I'll think I'll wait for the bigger screen. I like the assistant, however, only for the 4S was another disappointment.
    You really don't have any idea how much processing power it takes to create a no-training-required, natural language assistant, do you?

    Do you *actually* believe Apple kept Siri out of iOS 5 just to be mean ... or something? Seriously??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chas_m View Post
    You really don't have any idea how much processing power it takes to create a no-training-required, natural language assistant, do you?

    Do you *actually* believe Apple kept Siri out of iOS 5 just to be mean ... or something? Seriously??
    I am amazed just how many people I have ran into on the Net who thing that very thing. I don't BTW. That app takes a LOT OF POWER.

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