First Look: Inside Apple's fast new Thunderbolt port on MacBook Pros

the8thark · the8thark #1 (**permalink**)

02-24-2011, 09:12 PM

First Look: Inside Apple's fast new Thunderbolt port on MacBook Pros
AppleInsider | First Look: Inside Apple's fast new Thunderbolt port on MacBook Pros

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Apple has introduced the first implementation of Intel's new Thunderbolt technology for high speed communications, aimed at providing a very fast new data connection for mobile professionals.

Intel details Thunderbolt, says Apple has full year head start
AppleInsider | Intel details Thunderbolt, says Apple has full year head start

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At a press conference earlier this morning, Intel offered additional information about its new Thunderbolt interconnect technology being pioneered by Apple in its latest batch of MacBook Pros, noting Apple will have a year long head start in deploying the technology.

Doug b · Doug b #2 (**permalink**)

02-24-2011, 10:08 PM

A full years head start is a big reason to not waste ones money on a new MBP based on using TB technology, even for a "professional" since no one knows exactly how many or what kind of peripherals will be supported or when support will be coming, period. It's one thing to be an early adopter of new technology, but I think it's another thing entirely to spend money on technology that you can't even use for who knows how long...

If Apple knew they'd have a year's head start, it would have been truly smart of them to have partnered up with a few third party company's who make peripherals to accompany the release and not have people saying: "Wow.... cool ! So now what do we do with this?"

I'm sure we'll see things shortly, like maybe in a few months *hopefully less* but still, it seems a bit unprofessional to pull what seems like a preview stunt.

Doug

JUKE179r · JUKE179r #3 (**permalink**)

02-24-2011, 10:19 PM

Unless I read differently, Apple is going the Thunderbolt route but will not put a Blue Ray player/burner in the newer Macs.

MYmacROX · MYmacROX #4 (**permalink**)

02-24-2011, 10:26 PM

According to Intel it isn't exactly exclusive. They are open to manufacturers using the T.B. technology on their products.

And 2 peripherals with T.B. tech are officially announced - 1 coming Q2 2011 and the other is Summer 2011.

Intel refutes Apple exclusivity for Thunderbolt I/O, LaCie and Promise detail first Thunderbolt peripherals -- Engadget

class77 · class77 #5 (**permalink**)

02-25-2011, 12:05 AM

But there are already peripherals for USB 3.0 and Apple wouldn't put them in machines even though at this point in time they would be more useful. Somehow this doesn't make a lot of sense to me

CrimsonRequiem · CrimsonRequiem #6 (**permalink**)

02-25-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JUKE179r

Unless I read differently, Apple is going the Thunderbolt route but will not put a Blue Ray player/burner in the newer Macs.

BluRay. Not Blue Ray. >_<"

EndlessMac · EndlessMac #7 (**permalink**)

02-25-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JUKE179r

Unless I read differently, Apple is going the Thunderbolt route but will not put a Blue Ray player/burner in the newer Macs.

It seems Apple's answer to this is to make the new DVD drive 8x and support double-layer DVD discs.

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Originally Posted by MYmacROX

According to Intel it isn't exactly exclusive. They are open to manufacturers using the T.B. technology on their products.

That's good to hear because it will help Thunderbolt to be adopted quicker which I really hope will happen because it's a very interesting technology. I would prefer Thunderbolt over USB 3 as long as there will also be a large selection of products for it unlike Firewire.

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Originally Posted by class77

But there are already peripherals for USB 3.0 and Apple wouldn't put them in machines even though at this point in time they would be more useful. Somehow this doesn't make a lot of sense to me

Unless I'm mistaken from what I've read Thunderbolt can be used like the old ExpressCard port. This means that you just need to buy an adaptor that has the port connections you want so yes it will probably handle USB 3, 2, Firewire, etc. This bring back the usefulness of the ExpressCard port but at greater possible speeds.

the8thark · the8thark #8 (**permalink**)

02-25-2011, 05:20 AM

You can see exactly where this TB tech is going. Updated time capsules with a TB port maybe? Or maybe you can hook up to MPB's or other Macs in the future and work on Mac with data stored on the other.

This TB port makes an external almost as good as an internal. Having the TB port is pointless if you can do nothing with it. And I'm sure Apple have plans to make use of this new port.

Randy B. Singer · Randy B. Singer #9 (**permalink**)

02-25-2011, 05:44 AM

Here's a good article on Thunderbolt:

What you need to know about Thunderbolt | Computers | MacUser | Macworld

LaCie has already announced hard drives based on the technology:
LaCie is the premier manufacturer of high quality digital storage.

And these folks have already announced RAID systems:

Promise
Press Releases

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the8thark · the8thark #10 (**permalink**)

02-25-2011, 05:49 AM

Another nice TB article.

What Is Thunderbolt And Will It Change Your Life?
What Is Thunderbolt And Will It Change Your Life?

JUKE179r · JUKE179r #11 (**permalink**)

02-26-2011, 02:02 AM

Technology is moving too I LOVE PRETTY PONIES fast.

Randy B. Singer · Randy B. Singer #12 (**permalink**)

02-26-2011, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JUKE179r

Technology is moving too I LOVE PRETTY PONIES fast.

If that's true, why is it that the year 2,000 came and passed, and I still don't have a robot maid, a flying car, or a virtual reality closet in which I can take a vacation and ride dinosaurs?

All my life I'd been told that I would have all of those by the year 2,000.
I think that I've been lied to!

It's 2011 and all that I get is a faster data bus called Thunderbolt...

the8thark · the8thark #13 (**permalink**)

02-26-2011, 03:09 AM

Watch Futurama.
And you'll see those things will come by the year 3000.

Randy B. Singer · Randy B. Singer #14 (**permalink**)

02-26-2011, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by the8thark

Watch Futurama.
And you'll see those things will come by the year 3000.

Forgive me for being curmudgeonly about this...but I'm not prepared to wait that long.

(However, I am an ardent Futurama watcher.)

Even Back To The Future said that I'd have flying cars (and skateboards) by now.

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the8thark · the8thark #15 (**permalink**)

02-26-2011, 06:40 AM

If you believed the movies you'd have your flying cars now. But you would not have long to enjoy it with the ending of the world and all in 2012.

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Member Since: Jun 22, 2008 Location: Forest Hills, NYC Posts: 3,339 Mac Specs: 15-inch Early 2008; Processor 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo; Memory 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM; 10.7.5	02-24-2011, 10:08 PM A full years head start is a big reason to not waste ones money on a new MBP based on using TB technology, even for a "professional" since no one knows exactly how many or what kind of peripherals will be supported or when support will be coming, period. It's one thing to be an early adopter of new technology, but I think it's another thing entirely to spend money on technology that you can't even use for who knows how long... If Apple knew they'd have a year's head start, it would have been truly smart of them to have partnered up with a few third party company's who make peripherals to accompany the release and not have people saying: "Wow.... cool ! So now what do we do with this?" I'm sure we'll see things shortly, like maybe in a few months hopefully less but still, it seems a bit unprofessional to pull what seems like a preview stunt. Doug Alternatives to iTunes click here !
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Member Since: Mar 17, 2009 Posts: 3,329 Mac Specs: 2008 15" MBP ML, 2012 21.5" iMac ML	02-24-2011, 10:26 PM According to Intel it isn't exactly exclusive. They are open to manufacturers using the T.B. technology on their products. And 2 peripherals with T.B. tech are officially announced - 1 coming Q2 2011 and the other is Summer 2011. Intel refutes Apple exclusivity for Thunderbolt I/O, LaCie and Promise detail first Thunderbolt peripherals -- Engadget 16GB iPhone 5, 64GB Wi-Fi only iPad 1st Gen. Reminder: Please include your Mac's specs. This will make it much easier for the other members to assist you.
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Member Since: Jan 27, 2007 Location: Brisvegas Posts: 5,658 Mac Specs: 17 inch 2 GHz C2D imac (5,1) with 3GB DDR2 RAM, X1600 (128MB memory) GPU - OSX 10.6.3	02-25-2011, 05:20 AM You can see exactly where this TB tech is going. Updated time capsules with a TB port maybe? Or maybe you can hook up to MPB's or other Macs in the future and work on Mac with data stored on the other. This TB port makes an external almost as good as an internal. Having the TB port is pointless if you can do nothing with it. And I'm sure Apple have plans to make use of this new port.
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Member Since: Feb 01, 2011 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 479	02-25-2011, 05:44 AM Here's a good article on Thunderbolt: What you need to know about Thunderbolt \| Computers \| MacUser \| Macworld LaCie has already announced hard drives based on the technology: LaCie is the premier manufacturer of high quality digital storage. And these folks have already announced RAID systems: Promise Press Releases ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance OS X Maintenance And Troubleshooting ___________________________________________
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