Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 16
  1. #1


    Member Since
    Jan 27, 2007
    Location
    *Brisvegas*
    Posts
    5,658
    Specs:
    17 inch 2 GHz C2D imac (5,1) with 3GB DDR2 RAM, X1600 (128MB memory) GPU - OSX 10.6.3
    Microsoft CEO taps engineers as execs to take on Apple
    Microsoft CEO taps engineers as execs to take on Apple
    Microsoft CEO taps engineers as execs to take on Apple, more | Electronista

  2. #2

    iggibar's Avatar
    Member Since
    Apr 20, 2009
    Location
    Cleveland
    Posts
    4,079
    Specs:
    4.1 Mac Pro. 15" MBP. 13" MBP. 17" PB. PM G5. iPhone 6S+ 64gb Gold. Apple Watch 42mm.
    I liked this post about MSFT from a commentor,
    They don't invent. They don't create.
    They copy. They duplicate. They rename.
    They think differently - 10 months later.
    I wonder why Microsoft doesn't actually make their own products? They talk some much bs about how awesome stuff that runs Windows are, and bad mouth Apple, but don't have anything to show, with exception to the failing W7P, and xbox360.

    I can't...I have no idea, how such a stupid CEO, as S.B., can sit in his seat for 10 years!

    I actually think a Microsoft computer would be a good idea...if they can make them reliable.
    “If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself but to your own estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.” Marcus Aurelius

  3. #3

    cwa107's Avatar
    Member Since
    Dec 20, 2006
    Location
    Lake Mary, Florida
    Posts
    26,876
    Specs:
    15" MBP, Core i7/2GHz, 8GB RAM, 480GB Crucial M500 SSD
    Quote Originally Posted by idrinorbarsaku View Post
    I liked this post about MSFT from a commentor,


    I wonder why Microsoft doesn't actually make their own products? They talk some much bs about how awesome stuff that runs Windows are, and bad mouth Apple, but don't have anything to show, with exception to the failing W7P, and xbox360.
    Sure they do. Microsoft Office is an excellent and mostly original product. As much as people like to call Windows an 'upside down and backwards Mac OS', there is a lot of original ideas there - I particularly like some of the things they do with 7, like automatically sizing Windows based on gesture. That's a very handy innovation.

    Microsoft is not, and has never claimed to be, a hardware company. It's not in their DNA, and most of their attempts at vertical solutions have widely failed (Zune, WP7, WebTV), with XBOX being the lone exception (well, it actually is somewhat of a failure considering it's not particularly profitable).

    But from a software standpoint, particularly in the enterprise, their stuff *is* innovative and generally works pretty well, providing that you have a good IT staff to keep it humming along, unmarred by malware.

    I can't...I have no idea, how such a stupid CEO, as S.B., can sit in his seat for 10 years!
    Ballmer must be doing something right, Microsoft has turned a consistent and healthy profit even through some of the worst economic times of our generation. Could he be more innovative, more eloquent or more visionary? Sure. But he hasn't run the company into the ground either. Maybe poor strategic decisions will ultimately be his undoing, I don't know. But Microsoft still owns their core markets.

    I actually think a Microsoft computer would be a good idea...if they can make them reliable.
    Why? The closest thing to a computer they make is an XBOX, and judging by the RROD and other issues they have with hardware in general (freezing Zunes, anyone?), I'm not sure that would be such a good avenue for them.

    In my opinion, they need to get their fingers out of every conceivable IT market and focus on their core competencies. For one - I could see Microsoft Office for iOS being a very profitable venture for them.
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

    https://youtu.be/KHZ8ek-6ccc

  4. #4

    baggss's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 10, 2004
    Location
    Margaritaville
    Posts
    10,311
    Specs:
    27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 10.10.2 -64Gb iPad 2-64 Gb iPhone 6+-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage
    Quote Originally Posted by cwa107 View Post
    In my opinion, they need to get their fingers out of every conceivable IT market and focus on their core competencies. For one - I could see Microsoft Office for iOS being a very profitable venture for them.
    Agreed. If they would stop trying to be "all things to all people" they'd probably have a better image and make better products. IMO the same goes for Google too.


  5. #5

    iggibar's Avatar
    Member Since
    Apr 20, 2009
    Location
    Cleveland
    Posts
    4,079
    Specs:
    4.1 Mac Pro. 15" MBP. 13" MBP. 17" PB. PM G5. iPhone 6S+ 64gb Gold. Apple Watch 42mm.
    Of course I know they make Office, but I was actually referring to the hardware side. They were supposed to release their own phone with their new OS, but it didn't make it out. I think they nailed the new Xbox360K, and I believe it would be nice if they could put that much effort into a computer. There's a reason why I mentioned "if they can make them reliable." Wasn't there a rumor here about Office apps coming to iOS? I could have sworn I read it here. I can't imagine it would be cheap though, unless they removed most of the features.

    As for SB, I have a hard time finding good things that he is associated with, that wouldn't have happened unless he was there. Their stocks have been at about the same place as they were 10 years ago, but I guess you could also say that they haven't done *worse*.

    The same thing that baggss mentioned is what I also think might happen with Apple.
    “If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself but to your own estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.” Marcus Aurelius

  6. #6

    baggss's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 10, 2004
    Location
    Margaritaville
    Posts
    10,311
    Specs:
    27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 10.10.2 -64Gb iPad 2-64 Gb iPhone 6+-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage
    Quote Originally Posted by idrinorbarsaku View Post
    The same thing that baggss mentioned is what I also think might happen with Apple.
    Apple is in a bit of a different boat than MS and Google. At least making their own hardware, and making it well, allows them to tailor thier integration into new markets with both ends of the stick. With the convergance of iOS and OSX (iOS is an offshoot of OSX as it is) in the mainstream makes Apples case stronger than either MS or Googles.


  7. #7


    Member Since
    Mar 28, 2008
    Posts
    223
    Quote Originally Posted by baggss View Post
    Apple is in a bit of a different boat than MS and Google. At least making their own hardware, and making it well, allows them to tailor thier integration into new markets with both ends of the stick. With the convergance of iOS and OSX (iOS is an offshoot of OSX as it is) in the mainstream makes Apples case stronger than either MS or Googles.
    Apple does not make their own hardware....FoxConn does. The internal hardware is not any different than any other PC.

    MS could very easily have a high quality MS branded PC built by the same people that build all apple products.

  8. #8

    cwa107's Avatar
    Member Since
    Dec 20, 2006
    Location
    Lake Mary, Florida
    Posts
    26,876
    Specs:
    15" MBP, Core i7/2GHz, 8GB RAM, 480GB Crucial M500 SSD
    Quote Originally Posted by james515 View Post
    Apple does not make their own hardware....FoxConn does. The internal hardware is not any different than any other PC.

    MS could very easily have a high quality MS branded PC built by the same people that build all apple products.
    Sure they do. They outsource the manufacturing to Foxconn, amongst others. This argument is just silly, it would be like saying that Sony doesn't make their own TVs because they outsource the manufacturing to Chinese conglomerates that can build it cheaper.

    Yes, the chipsets are the very same that are used in similarly spec'ed PCs. But they are designed and laid out by Apple's engineers, and of course tied together with custom EFI.
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

    https://youtu.be/KHZ8ek-6ccc

  9. #9

    baggss's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 10, 2004
    Location
    Margaritaville
    Posts
    10,311
    Specs:
    27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 10.10.2 -64Gb iPad 2-64 Gb iPhone 6+-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage
    Quote Originally Posted by james515 View Post
    Apple does not make their own hardware....FoxConn does. The internal hardware is not any different than any other PC.

    MS could very easily have a high quality MS branded PC built by the same people that build all apple products.
    Split hairs much? They design their own hardware and it's built to their specs with their QC. Pointing out that a 3rd part actually makes the hardware doesn't make any difference for the purposes this discussion and I'm not sure why you felt compelled to bring it up even.

    Yes, MS COULD but they DON'T and that is the point. Apple does the design and engineering and contracts someone else to build ALL. It's Apple branded and serviced by certified Apple technicians under the Apple name. So wether Apple employees actually assemble the hardware is not the issue here.


  10. #10


    Member Since
    Sep 19, 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    191
    Specs:
    3.4ghz quad core ati 5850 graphics card 4GB ddr3 ram
    computers are changing, they are no longer just the "office machine for writing a detailed report" but rather a much more expanded system.

  11. #11

    baggss's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 10, 2004
    Location
    Margaritaville
    Posts
    10,311
    Specs:
    27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 10.10.2 -64Gb iPad 2-64 Gb iPhone 6+-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage
    Quote Originally Posted by ZachUSAman View Post
    computers are changing, they are no longer just the "office machine for writing a detailed report" but rather a much more expanded system.
    That happened at least 10 years ago...


  12. #12


    Member Since
    Feb 06, 2011
    Posts
    2
    Office Original?
    Excel == Visicalc
    Word == Wordperfect
    Viso purchased in the 90's
    Power Point - you may be correct there.

    Yep - MS Office - totally original

  13. #13


    Member Since
    Sep 19, 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    191
    Specs:
    3.4ghz quad core ati 5850 graphics card 4GB ddr3 ram
    Quote Originally Posted by baggss View Post
    That happened at least 10 years ago...
    At least 10 years ago, computers sat on a desk, and a dual core processor was something not found in a cellphone.

  14. #14

    Chris H.'s Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 03, 2009
    Location
    Albuquerque, New Mexico
    Posts
    2,641
    It makes me wonder…are desktops/notebooks going the way of the dodo bird? I doubt it highly though…seeing as desktops are still considered media hubs (sync-wise) among other things (such as a place for databases, document work etc etc).


    Can the tablet really replace the desktop/notebook?
     iPad Air 2 - iOS 9.3
     iPhone 6 64GB - iOS 9.3
     Mac mini early 2009 - OS X El Capitan 10.11.4
     MacBook unibody/white late 2009 - OS X El Capitan 10.11.4

  15. #15

    baggss's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 10, 2004
    Location
    Margaritaville
    Posts
    10,311
    Specs:
    27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 10.10.2 -64Gb iPad 2-64 Gb iPhone 6+-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage
    Quote Originally Posted by ZachUSAman View Post
    At least 10 years ago, computers sat on a desk, and a dual core processor was something not found in a cellphone.
    That doesn't make my comment any less true.


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Apple CEO will meet Samsung CEO....
    By odenkun in forum Apple Rumors and Reports
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-18-2012, 03:15 PM
  2. Apple hires 20 to 25 laid off Cisco engineers
    By OneMoreThing... in forum Apple Rumors and Reports
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-08-2011, 06:31 PM
  3. Replies: 19
    Last Post: 04-29-2008, 03:05 PM
  4. Apple Mail used more than Outlook by engineers
    By giulio in forum Schweb's Lounge
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-11-2008, 08:43 AM
  5. Electrical/Computer Engineers and Mechanical Engineers:
    By ezhangin in forum Schweb's Lounge
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-07-2006, 01:18 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •