12-27-2010, 01:31 PM

RIM thought Apple was lying about original iPhone in 2007
AppleInsider | RIM thought Apple was lying about original iPhone in 2007

12-27-2010, 05:12 PM

And this is when Apple's secrecy is a good thing. Completely caught RIM by surprise.

12-27-2010, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by the8thark

RIM thought Apple was lying about original iPhone in 2007
AppleInsider | RIM thought Apple was lying about original iPhone in 2007

Makes sense. This is the result of letting your guard down, and not taking competitors seriously.

12-27-2010, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by ezcompane

Makes sense. This is the result of letting your guard down, and not taking competitors seriously.

And that sure sounds true of Steve Ballmer and his mighty unpopular Windows 7 phone.


https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/t...h/28pogue.html

12-27-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by harryb2448

And that sure sounds true of Steve Ballmer and his mighty unpopular Windows 7 phone.


https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/t...h/28pogue.html

Nice. I was actually playing with the Surround while waiting for the AT&T rep to get my new iPhone from the back room. It's not that bad from what I played with, but I noticed the lack of multitasking immediately. This has never been a big deal with me as I don't expect a phone to function as a computer, but considering multitasking is the current norm for smartphones I was surprised to see it left out.

My GF needs a new phone and they ALMOST had me consider skipping the iPhone and getting two of the Surrounds for $199, but then she became the voice of reason when she told me that we'd have to learn how to use an entirely new phone with its programs and such. No thanks.

12-27-2010, 10:23 PM

This is a idea i like

Without even fully waking the phone, you can see the date and time, your next appointment, and how many new messages await (e-mail, voice mail, texts).

Very useful. To be able to pull the phone out of you pocket and glance to see what is waiting for you . . . . . Priceless. Yea ill have my knockers, that say "What, too lazy now to click and swipe" Answer. YES !!!! And became irritating quite quick with me.
And think of the Battery Life over time... Its not much in one instant but over a whole day, how much would it use powering on the screen and getting the processor going every time its done. Just saying.

12-27-2010, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by TattooedMac

This is a idea i like
Very useful. To be able to pull the phone out of you pocket and glance to see what is waiting for you . . . . . Priceless. Yea ill have my knockers, that say "What, too lazy now to click and swipe" Answer. YES !!!! And became irritating quite quick with me.
And think of the Battery Life over time... Its not much in one instant but over a whole day, how much would it use powering on the screen and getting the processor going every time its done. Just saying.

And that's why my phone is jailbroken and has LockInfo installed... I wish Apple would implement something more useful on the home screen. I can't live without LockInfo now.

12-28-2010, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by harryb2448

And that sure sounds true of Steve Ballmer and his mighty unpopular Windows 7 phone.


https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/t...h/28pogue.html

That article makes the W7 phones look like carbon clones (almost) of the first iphone. Even the exact same lack of features that the iphone 1.0 had. As we all know in 2007 that's totally ok but in 2011 no good. People though are saying it's a phone to watch. And I agree. We can watch it succeed or we can watch it fail.

And to me this is a disaster for MS. And I'll explain why. We know MS get their profits from business/enterprise just upgrading their MS products. And those folk just buy the MS products cause it's all they know. And they work fine for what they want. But if MS is true to it's word and W8 is very gaming focused and less business/enterprise oriented they could lose massive shares in that market. And if that happens they won't have the spare cash they have today to flitter around on whimsical half baked products not very well thought out.

I agree that most people know hard gamers love their self built PCs. But do they generate a lot of revenue for MS? I would guess not. I would say their profits lie in business/enterprise as I said above. So yeah the future of MS to me is just making/promoting products that in a way go against their already proven money makers. I'm all for new products. But if those new products kill your other multi billion dollar arms of your company then that's dumb. Very dumb.

12-28-2010, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by RONE

And that's why my phone is jailbroken and has LockInfo installed... I wish Apple would implement something more useful on the home screen. I can't live without LockInfo now.

+1, it is awesome!

12-28-2010, 03:57 PM

My guess W8 will come out in the usual half a dozen costly versions to try and cover all market shares and capturing less and less.