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    Report: So far the new intel macs are slow
    http://www.betanews.com/article/Repo...wer/1118249457

    Of corse theyre slow because

    1. its early stages of development
    2. its intel lol

    They mainly pick on the Rosetta Stone, well duh! of corse its going to be slow.
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    I see one problem with the analysis. Nowhere on the scores was it stressed that they were comparing a dual 64bit processor to a single 32bit processor. All in all a good read but not very informative.

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    Interesting read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by embries
    I see one problem with the analysis. Nowhere on the scores was it stressed that they were comparing a dual 64bit processor to a single 32bit processor. All in all a good read but not very informative.
    When they release the mac with intels in them wont' they be 64 bit?
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    By next year the Itels should be dual-core 64-bit chips up and down the line at the consumer level.

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    this is good news, but is tiger made for the 64 bit chip in x86 format?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadSkillzMan
    http://www.betanews.com/article/Repo...wer/1118249457

    Of corse theyre slow because

    1. its early stages of development
    2. its intel lol

    They mainly pick on the Rosetta Stone, well duh! of corse its going to be slow.
    Emulation (Rosetta) is always slow. VirtualPC is an extreme example (emulating x86 on PowerPC.)

    When the first PowerPC Macs shipped, they used an emulator to run 680x0 software. (Which was 90+% of software at the beginning.) In many cases, something like a Quadra 700 (a two-year-old machine by then) would match the fancy new Power Macs running 680x0 software. Only when native software became available did the advantage manifest itself.

    If you have a large library of PowerPC software, you'll probably be better off buying PowerPC hardware now (or in the next year or so, as the last new PowerPC machines come out.) During the transition, PowerPC Macs will be faster than Intel Macs as often as not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadSkillzMan
    http://www.betanews.com/article/Repo...wer/1118249457

    Of corse theyre slow because

    1. its early stages of development
    2. its intel lol

    They mainly pick on the Rosetta Stone, well duh! of corse its going to be slow.

    It's Intel?

    Not entirely sure what that means.

    The fact that the Intel procs were even able to match and beat the Dual G5 in some tests under Rosetta Emulation w/ PowerPC native binaries doesn't say much for the G5....

    I think the article totally missed the point with it's headline "Report: Intel Macs Significantly Slower" - Apple clearly released the results to demonstrate how well the Intel procs are doing in the primitive stages of this transition.

    A year is a HUGE amount of time in the PC industry, and by the release of the first x86 Intel-based mac, we'll be seeing significantly different benchmark results.

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    Hopefully by the time these machines start showing up universal binaries will be available for all your apps so you won't even need Rosetta

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadSkillzMan
    http://www.betanews.com/article/Repo...wer/1118249457

    Of course theyre slow, its in the early stages of development.


    They mainly pick on the Rosetta Stone, well duh! of course its going to be slow.
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    Benchmarks under emulation of any kind are less than useless.

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    yeah because the program doing the benchmark is going to be slower because it is being emulated, esspecially a new emulator that just was announced not to long ago.
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    The question is why benchmark a non-production system? Weren't those system design for a programming environment, while the production systems are being designed and built. I don't see what this bench mark tell me, except that the developer don't have a fast machine to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rman
    The question is why benchmark a non-production system? Weren't those system design for a programming environment, while the production systems are being designed and built. I don't see what this bench mark tell me, except that the developer don't have a fast machine to work with.
    These benchmarks were done on a display model at the show not a delivered developer machine, who knows what is actually inside it!

    Amen-Moses

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    Still a non production machine.
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