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I have no idea where this should ideally go...but is this the card I have in my Macbook Pro? Anybody hearing anything about this? I haven't had any problems with mine but didn't know what the long term effects of this could be (if it is true).

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/a...-chips-faulty/

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I actually just read this story as well Aubie. I have had some issues with certain games that i play through windows. I play Counter Strike Source and at times the frame rate will get very laggy even when there are only 2 people on a server. This always happens when my pro is hot particularly in the area of the cpu and gpu. My temps are around 180 at this point. This could also be an issue with the source engine though because when playing COD4 or Bioshock I have no problems.
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http://www.electronista.com/articles...84.g86.faulty/ . Just saw this, what do you guys think. Hopefully if it is all true apple with start replacing the graphics card in current macbook pro's so you can bring it in or something.
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http://www.electronista.com/articles...84.g86.faulty/ . Just saw this, what do you guys think. Hopefully if it is all true apple with start replacing the graphics card in current macbook pro's so you can bring it in or something.
I would find that hard to imagine...

I cannot see apple replacing all the graphic cards in all macbook pro's from the last two reversions...


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I would find that hard to imagine...

I cannot see apple replacing all the graphic cards in all macbook pro's from the last two reversions...
i think so too i dont think they would replace all the cards in the old macbook but i think that it will slow down the new MBP's from coming out.. if apple decides to change the cards to something else with some other company...

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I read about that at Engadget. Every single one of them can overheat. That's pretty scary, especially if it does out of warranty and is isn't replaced beforehand. I wonder if it does overheat and Apple fixes it because they are required to because as paid for the replacement part, will they replace the logic board if it is damaged because of the overheated graphics chip??


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that's what i was wondering.
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What are the symptoms of this to the computer. What should I be looking for?
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Oh lovely ... i guess when the dust settles from this and nVidia pays for everyone get to a new MoBo (because the graphics chip is on the board, you can't pull it out) we might all be getting new motherboards.
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I either hope it's not the 8600M or that Mac hooks it up w/ a new MBP when this all gets sifted out
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Curses, this may mean Apple will go back to those awful, awful ATI cards in their notebooks again. As for current computers... given how Apple handled the display problem with the vertical green lines on that batch of G4 PowerBooks and other recent practices, I see Apple pretty much just not acknowledging this as a problem and only replacing anything for you once something does go wrong - and then only if you're still under the AppleCare warranty when it happens.
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i posted this same thread in the general discussion and it got moved to some other section.

i think it is very important that macbook owners know of this

?anyone know of the symptoms when these chips go bad

?how difficult is it to get at the macbook-pro video card
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i posted this same thread in the general discussion and it got moved to some other section.
No. You posted it in "Anything Goes" - and as I explained the first time, Anything Goes is not the place for this kind of thing. Read the link I provided you previously here.

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i think it is very important that macbook owners know of this
Correction - MacBook Pro owners are the only ones effected by this.

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?anyone know of the symptoms when these chips go bad
I don't believe the chips go bad, they just overheat - so during the overheating, your display would likely become distorted - similar to when you overclock a video card improperly. It should return to normal upon cooling if it hasn't been used this way in a prolonged manner.

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It's soldered to the systemboard and can not be replaced independently. You would need to replace the entire systemboard.

There's an even easier fix to this that I think Apple will likely provide via software - and that would be to simply underclock the GPU. It's not going to make performance freaks happy, but for the most part, the general public won't know the difference.

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There's an even easier fix to this that I think Apple will likely provide via software - and that would be to simply underclock the GPU. It's not going to make performance freaks happy, but for the most part, the general public won't know the difference.
Separating so-called "performance freaks" from the general public on an issue involving underperforming video cards is rather naive when you're talking about the MacBook Pro, the computer that people are willing to pay an extra $600 for basically just so they can get a bigger screen and a dedicated video card. The "general public" you seem to have in mind is the demographic of the MacBook, not the MacBook Pro. Aside from people that get the machines just because they look pretty, MacBook Pro-owners likely use the extra muscle and therefore would know the difference.
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