04-01-2008, 12:05 AM

There is news that Texas lady is suing Apple, stating that the 20 iMac can not display the millions of colors that Apple promises in their promotions. She states that the 24" iMac is capable of displaying on Apple's promise, however.

This looks like the lawsuit.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...s_lawsuit.html

She must be referring about the 2GHz iMac, because the 2.4GHz has the same graphics card as the 24" iMac. Anyone knows if the 2400XT fails to deliver as per contention?

04-01-2008, 12:27 AM

It'll be the panel that she'll have a problem with, not the graphics card.

04-01-2008, 12:41 AM

Can the 20" display the number of colors promoted by Apple?

04-01-2008, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by EGGO

It'll be the panel that she'll have a problem with, not the graphics card.

Agreed, it's the LCD Panel and not the Graphics chipset. They claim the 20" uses a TN panel while the 24" uses an IPS panel.

This looks like the lawsuit.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...s_lawsuit.html

Here is a explanation of the 2 types of display panels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

04-01-2008, 05:33 AM

*Moved thread to appropriate forum - This isn't on Design or photography*

04-01-2008, 07:09 AM

Utterly baseless.

Any manufacturer can change specifications whenever it likes. Whether it's better or worse than the old one is irrelevant. They'll have a hard job proving it doesn't look 'stunning' (photos look pretty tasty on it, especially with the gloss finish).

04-01-2008, 08:20 AM

So the question still remains, IMO. Does the 20" panel display the "millions of colors" that is still being advertised by Apple at the time of the suit. That will be the question that will be considered.

04-01-2008, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by WolfsBane

So the question still remains, IMO. Does the 20" panel display the "millions of colors" that is still being advertised by Apple at the time of the suit.

I'd say "no". Banding in gradients is absolutely horrid. You cannot use a 20" iMac for design work. It's a consumer model, not a professional machine.

04-01-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by WolfsBane

So the question still remains, IMO. Does the 20" panel display the "millions of colors" that is still being advertised by Apple at the time of the suit. That will be the question that will be considered.

It can display the millions of colors, but the contrast value may not be the same, or anything else. It is a TN panel, afterall. Her problem is if Apple advertised "color accuracy." Otherwise, I don't see her having a snowball's chance in heck if Apple's lawyers knows a thing or two about this.

04-01-2008, 12:37 PM

It's not just contrast. It's actual colors. If you make a gradient, you notice really really bad color banding. As you get more subtle with the gradient, you see the problem more.

I don't think "It's the display's fault" is a valid argument for Apple. Apple chooses to sell a complete package (software+hardware) in the iMac. If they say it can display millions, it must display millions. It doesn't matter where the parts come from.

I still don't think a law suit is necessary though. She should return it, get her money back, and go home.

04-01-2008, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by giulio

I still don't think a law suit is necessary though. She should return it, get her money back, and go home.

Should Apple be allowed to falsify specifications as long as they accept returns when people figure it out?

04-01-2008, 03:00 PM

if this goes to the courts i bet she will get some type of payment, either a ruling or a settlement because apple falsely put specs that weren't true on their machine.

04-01-2008, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by mynameis

Should Apple be allowed to falsify specifications as long as they accept returns when people figure it out?

Of course not. The right thing to do would be for Apple to take back all affected machines, and replace them with corrected machines.

But that's not going to happen. One person (and the lawyers) will make a ton of dough. And everyone else with the bad displays get nothing. Perhaps in the future though, Apple will be more honest about their specs.

04-01-2008, 07:14 PM

There was actually a near-identical class-action lawsuit Apple settled recently because the MacBooks + MacBook Pros were advertised as 8-bit displays and they were 6-bit (which is the same difference as here- millions of colors advertised, but the displays only displayed thousands without dithering, which is blending colors together to create the low quality illusion of millions).

Anyone know if that settlement pertains to this?

EDIT: link to MB(P) settlement story: http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...olors-lawsuit/

04-01-2008, 09:01 PM

was this a print add or Video add? anyone have a link to it?