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    MBP, MB, or Dos laptop?
    Okay, I still have my iMac G5 (Which is having all kinds of weird issues, it restarts randomly and I had to re-install the OS a few weeks ago because the thing went crazy and wouldn't do anything for days but...) but for University I need to buy a laptop.

    I'm trying to decide if I should get a Mac Book Pro, Mac Book (Black), or a Vista Laptop. I plan on taking some software engineering classes but my major is International Business and East Asian languages (Side note: Can anyone tell me how to get Japanese and Simpl. Chinese input on the iMac running 10.4.8?) and my electives are Spanish (I'm already fluent) and some other things. I need to be able to run windows for VB, ASP, etc. but can I use them on Boot Camp or Parallels (I've never used an intel mac before, I even hated them at first lol)?

    That's one of the major things in my decision. Another is battery life, how long do the MBP / MB batteries last? I'd like to be able to get through my classes; I graduated 2 years early so I am only taking 12 and less hours so I need the battery to last about 3 hours almost straight a day or close to that.

    Another thing is price, I have a few thousand saved for the computer but I don't want to break the bank (1500 even makes me cringe)... so places that offer rebates could be good (Amazon, instead of buying from the apple store) Also, I have to add in the extended warranty too. Anyone have good ideas on stores to go look in; CompUSA section lacks and my local Mac store I only visit when I have to as the freeway here is crazy).

    Durability is a factor as I want to use it until I get my BA hopefully.


    Any help ya'll? I start school full time in Aug but I am taking Summer classes in May...

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    IF you run Windows in Boot Camp or Parallels then you'll have access to VB, ASP etc.

    Battery on the MacBook is 3 hours pretty comfortably - I played Champ Manager on it the other day for about 3 hours and thats a CPU intensive game (I think) the MacBook was getting hot so needed the fans on and like I say - 3 hours out of it - in fact I gave up before the MacBook did.

    Just browsing the web - I get maybe 3.5 hours before battery icon goes red - but if you were in class or lecture and using it for notes - turning on maximum battery - turn off wireless (if you don't need it) turn off bluetooth - 3.5 - maybe 4 hours usage, maybe a bit more.

    Apple's official estimate of the battery life of all "non-Pro" MacBook models, using a 55-watt hour battery is an impressive six hours. However, the company estimates 3.5 hours while using wi-fi and 2.5 hours of DVD playback.
    EveryMac

    I think the MacBook Pros are more durable than the MacBook (MBP takes a bullet).

    Best place to look when saving some cash - The Apple Refurb store - I got my macbook from the refurb store - saved a bit of cash and I'm really happy with it. (You can still buy AppleCare for 3 years warranty if you want)

    Also if you're a student - or can get the college to sign off on you being a student very soon then Apple do some good discounts for students and teachers as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNDdave View Post
    IF you run Windows in Boot Camp or Parallels then you'll have access to VB, ASP etc.

    Battery on the MacBook is 3 hours pretty comfortably - I played Champ Manager on it the other day for about 3 hours and thats a CPU intensive game (I think) the MacBook was getting hot so needed the fans on and like I say - 3 hours out of it - in fact I gave up before the MacBook did.

    Just browsing the web - I get maybe 3.5 hours before battery icon goes red - but if you were in class or lecture and using it for notes - turning on maximum battery - turn off wireless (if you don't need it) turn off bluetooth - 3.5 - maybe 4 hours usage, maybe a bit more.

    EveryMac

    I think the MacBook Pros are more durable than the MacBook (MBP takes a bullet).

    Best place to look when saving some cash - The Apple Refurb store - I got my macbook from the refurb store - saved a bit of cash and I'm really happy with it. (You can still buy AppleCare for 3 years warranty if you want)

    Also if you're a student - or can get the college to sign off on you being a student very soon then Apple do some good discounts for students and teachers as well.
    Thanks!

    Do you know if the refurbs are good? I mean, I like the benefit of it being cheaper but having something refurbished kind of makes me nervous in the back of the throat. I've boughten an iBook from someone but I expect that to be used in lol. What condition did the refurbished MB come in?

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    Mine came in VERY good condition. There are a few light scratches to the top that can be seen if you look at the laptop in a certain light at a certain angle - i.e. you don't see them unless you are really looking for them.

    The keyboard etc was perfect.

    I had a gripe in that it came with a user account already on it rather than a fresh setup asking for my username - this was easily solved and from what I've heard from others - it's VERY rare.

    Refurbs are an absolute bargain.

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    Cool, cool. What do you use your MB for? For school would you say it is better than a MBP? I want to install Boot Camp and set up either Vista or XP sp2 so which would be better for that?

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    Well I use my MacBook for personal free-time stuff - like web surfing, Job hunting, forum loitering, the odd game, general fun with iLife apps & MSN (Adium).

    I'm an IT contractor (currently although as previously stated - looking for something more permanent) and I've used the MacBook a couple of times when out and about - although I don't really like taking it to most places I go as I think something bad will happen (like it'll get pinched). I can use it to remotely access Windows machines if needed so I can still offer remote support - but if I stick at this current line of work then I think I'd like some cash to get a cheap IBM Thinkpad (used) so that I wont be so bothered if it has to stay in a build room unsupervised for a couple of hours

    Personally I love the MacBook - the MBP never really appealed to me as I want ultra-portability from a laptop and the MacBooks light weight appealed to me more so than the weight of the slightly heavier MBP - also the footprint is smaller than an MBP.

    With regards to weight - if you've got to lug a few things round with you (in your case - maybe a few text books, a note pad, etc) then a few extra ounces here and there add up to a heavy bag - I remember this from my uni days. However if you think it might come in for a rough time - maybe you throw your bag in the back of a car or something - maybe the durability of the MBPs will be more suited to you.

    Ultimately the choice will be yours - some people love the MBPs and some don't - I suggest you try to get to a store selling Apple portables and have a play with the models you think you are most likely to buy.

    Regarding XP & Vista - I'm not sure what the state of things is with regards to Vista support through Boot Camp - so it may be a non-starter although I really don't know for sure. I'd go for XP - it's pretty much proven now - and there are a load of people already running XP on their intel Macs so getting some help here and there will not be a problem.

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    Hehe, for a second there I thought you wrote: "the odd funeral" lol .

    Have you used your MB for hard core programming?

    I think the MB will be better in terms of weight but I haven't played with either yet. I have a car so the only self-transport will be around campus everyday.

    I'm trying to go visit a store soon, maybe if I can make it out to the Apple Store if not CompUSA.

    I've seen reports of both; people saying XP works better in BC and those who say Vista does.

    Still there is a dos laptop too . I like the cheapness of the (Some)IBMs and Dells but then you get what you pay for...

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    If you wanna go for the higher end macbook, DON'T get the black one. You can upgrade the middle-level macbook so it has the same extra stuff as the blackbook, but you'll be paying a lot less.

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    Yeah, I saw that, what a rip off! X_X

    Of course black is the common notebook color, and white stands out. Do you think having a white MB would be a bigger risk in stealing wise?

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