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Okay, so I hope to get enough money from graduation in May to give my iBook to my fiance and by a new Mac. The two models I am considering are the 13" White 2.0GHz at $1099 and the 15" 2.16GHz at $1999. What I am wondering is if the MacBook Pro is worth the extra $900. This computer will be used for e-mail/internet, web design, music editing, and misc. grad school work such as my Masters thesis. What is a double-layer superdrive?

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Okay, so I hope to get enough money from graduation in May to give my iBook to my fiance and by a new Mac. The two models I am considering are the 13" White 2.0GHz at $1099 and the 15" 2.16GHz at $1999. What I am wondering is if the MacBook Pro is worth the extra $900. This computer will be used for e-mail/internet, web design, music editing, and misc. grad school work such as my Masters thesis. What is a double-layer superdrive?

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If you have to ask what a dual-layer superdrive is, then you probably don't need one. (It's a drive that will burn dual-layer DVDs that hold around 8GB, rather than the normal 4.7)

In my opinion, the MBP would be overkill for what you're wanting to use it.

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The 2.0GHz C2D MacBook is $1,299, not $1,099 so it's a $700 difference. That $700 gives you:

* marginally faster processor (you'll probably never notice that difference)

* 120G hard drive instead of 80G

* discrete video (ATI X1600) instead of the integrated Intel graphics of the MacBook (you'll only notice the difference if you're playing games or doing 3D-intensive work)

* easier RAM upgrade path (the MBP comes with a single 1G DIMM and one free slot; the MB comes with two 512M DIMMs and no free slots)

* larger, higher resolution screen (1440x900 15.4" widescreen vs. 1280x800 13.3" widescreen) ... also, the MBP is available with both glossy and matte screens while the MB comes only with glossy

* aluminum construction vs. plastic of the MB

* different keyboard (many people prefer the MBP keyboard, including me; best bet is to try them both at the Apple Store to see if the difference matters to you)

* lighted keyboard

* slightly more weight (5.6# vs. 5.2#)

* larger size (14.1 x 9.6 x 1 vs. 12.78 x 8.92 x 1.08)

* reduced battery life (Apple claims up to 5 hours on the MBP, up to 6 hours on the MB)

Both computers come with the same SuperDrive, which is Apple's designation for their slot drive that both reads and writes CD's and DVD's. The MB and the 15" MBP both come with a 6x (speed; higher number is better) SuperDrive.

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The MBP also supports 800 Firewire if you want that...to me it sounds like you'll be fine with the standard MB unless you want a bigger screen/better vid card/firewire 800/double-layer superdrive.
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Initial Comfort as the MBP is a lot more comfortable as the MB has a sharp edge . One person has said that it was an over reaction on my part but it was enough for me to return my MB and Upgrade to a MBP. He said that it would be less irratating with time as the sharp edges would dull with use and time. I have large hands and perhaps why it was so uncomfortable, but I also have callused hands and it was too annoying for me to continue to use it. If you don't plan on using the touchpad a lot it may not be a concern.
I have to mention though I am 100% happier with my MPB.
As far as performance it is only marginally noticeable but there is definitely noticeable. As previously mentioned your use of the machine may not warrant the upgrade , but I am as happy as a pig in a sty with my MPB.
Stronly suggest that you give them a go before purchasing .
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There is one other thing I thought of. I will probably need to be able to connect it to projectors at the university to make presentations. Can I do that with the MacBook or would I need a MacBook Pro? Is the MBP more durable than the MB, since it is made of alluminum instead of plastic?

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If anything, the MBP is more fragile. It's such a beautiful piece of machinery, you're forced to give it a lot of tender care.

This is my first Mac but perhaps those who have own its predecessors can attest to the durability and have scars to show for it. I would imagine it could stand a drop or two, but it wouldn't look the same afterwards.
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I find the larger and higher resolution screen alone makes the MBP the better option....even for simple word processing or spreadsheet tasks.
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Well, I bought a regular MB a couple weeks ago and returned it on Monday for a MBP. The MBP keyboard is definately more comfortable and tactile. I also think there is a very noticable difference in the screen image quality. I am very happy that went to the MBP.
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* reduced battery life (Apple claims up to 5 hours on the MBP, up to 6 hours on the MB)
There is no way that anyone will get 5 hours battery life out of a MBP, or?
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I find the larger and higher resolution screen alone makes the MBP the better option....even for simple word processing or spreadsheet tasks.
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For me if I was buying a MacBook this would be the deal maker for me. For me the 13" screen is a little too small and I like stuff small so the higher resolution is better. Really depends if yo have the money to spend. In actuality I think very few people really "need" the MacBookPro but a few do.

I'm still plugging away on my PowerBookG4 with the 15" screen. I love it though.
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There is no way that anyone will get 5 hours battery life out of a MBP, or?
You can get 5 hours if you dim the screen, have no programs running, and have Airport/Bluetooth turned off

I've been able to manage 5 hours on my Macbook with Airport turned off but with several programs running and the screen being one point above completely dim.

As for Thundermoon, I would definitely suggest you check out both the Macbook and the Macbook Pro at your local Apple Store or a retailer that sells Macs. Most importantly, look at the screen size, the difference between glossy and matte screens, and finally, the keyboards.

I personally found the Macbook's keyboard superior to the Pro edition's, which played a major part in my decision to go with the black Macbook. Granted, the smaller size was a major factor as well (much easier to stick in my bag than a 15" MBP would ever be).

Oh yea, nobody answered your presentation question. If your projectors work with VGA or DVI cables, then you'll be able to use both laptops, but you will need to get a mini-DVI adapter first (which is fine, they're pretty cheap). There are three types of adapters, and judging from my experience with projectors, you'll need the mini-DVI to VGA adapter. :black:
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Another thing you might want to consider is Apple's Refurb store. I've bought several Mac's this way and have never had any issues with any of them. Right now you can get the base MBP 15 for 1599.00 which is only a 100 more than regular new price of the black Macbook. As a side note, I have had one iPod come to me DOA from the refurb store but they overnighted me another one so that definitely restored my faith...
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