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PowerBook - tiger on powerbook g5 , can I use my desktop software?


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Hello.

I read the thread about installing tiger on my 15" powerbook g4 . My question is can I use the tiger install discs that came with my new g5 or is there software specific to the laptops?

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sigh.... I just realized that my topic should have read "installing tiger on my powerbook g4" not g5...


anyone?

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I believe that the restore discs included with hardware are device-specific...meaning that the installer checks your machine's serial number electronically to see if it can be installed. I could be wrong, but I think that's what it does.

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I've seen people 'think' the install disks are machine specific, but have never heard of anyone actually hitting the problem. Why don't you just try it. Backup of your system first of course.
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I've seen people 'think' the install disks are machine specific, but have never heard of anyone actually hitting the problem. Why don't you just try it. Backup of your system first of course.
1. It's illegal to use the discs on another machines
2. They don't work. There are device drivers that are system specific and it will not install

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Good point Xstep , worst case it doesn't work ( well sort of worst case , ouch!).

thx for the n-put.
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The legality is disputable, but there isn't any "check" that will prevent it from booting.

If you try to use the Intel disks on a PowerPC machine, no, that won't work. But any Tiger disks from G4/G5 ect will work on all the machines in that line. There are no system specific device drivers.
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The legality isn't disputable... it states clearly in the EULA that the discs are to be used with the machine they are included with and that machine only. Any use otherwise is a direct violation of the EULA and its copyright law.
There are also checks (yes, I have witnessed it with my own eyes) that will prevent it from being installed on machine types other than the one it is intended for.

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The legality isn't disputable... it states clearly in the EULA ...
Legality, smeality, locality. The legality would depend on your local laws. Perhaps there are some countries where what the poster requested would be legal. I can't say that I know.

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There are also checks (yes, I have witnessed it with my own eyes) that will prevent it from being installed on machine types other than the one it is intended for.
My one experience with this was with a Panther CD install disc from an eMac. I do not recall any issues, but then, the install was onto a Wallstreet via the XPostFacto tool. The disks were purchased separately from an eMac.
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I too have been able to get emac disks to install on other computers. However, when trying to install an iMac G5 OS 10.3 on a powermac G4 I got a message saying I couldn't install on the machine.
I guess it depends, but mostly I would say it wont work.
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It's interesting to know Apple has taken this precaution. I wonder when they started this.

I wonder if they are actually removing un-needed drivers, or are creating custom installers per hardware design. Has anyone actually compared the different install discs to find the differences?

It will be interesting to see if Leopard requires a license key when it is released.
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Legality, smeality, locality. The legality would depend on your local laws. Perhaps there are some countries where what the poster requested would be legal.
Nope. :black:
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I have a friend who just bought a supposedly "retail" copy of OSX 10.4 Tiger on eBay, and it turned out to be a Hardware-Bundled copy. It would NOT install on his iBook, and he wasn't able to get around it in any way. Not to mention, the eBay seller is in a load of crap for selling a non-existant license.

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I have a friend who just bought a supposedly "retail" copy of OSX 10.4 Tiger on eBay, and it turned out to be a Hardware-Bundled copy. It would NOT install on his iBook, and he wasn't able to get around it in any way. Not to mention, the eBay seller is in a load of crap for selling a non-existant license.
Assuming your description is correct. Your friend needs to return that AND have his credit card reversed because the seller has committed a fraud if they advertised it as a retail copy and not delivered such product. Your friend has not received what was advertised.

A friend of mine refuses to use PayPal anymore for sales because someone who did receive a product had the charge reversed but did not return the product.
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Nope. :black:
You often see in EULAs reference exceptions to local laws. Sometimes specifically, but usually in generic terms. So I suspect in the end it depends where the lawsuit is filed, to what parts of the EULA applies.
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