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10 minute boot on MacBook 1,1 OSX 10.6.. Blue screen


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Any chance either of you might be running MacPilot? I saw a discussion on another site that mentioned it as a possible culprit.
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I restarted my computer this morning and everything is back to normal. Started up in less than a minute and everything is working just fine. I don't remember allowing any updates very recently so I'm not sure what fixed it. Glad it is back to normal but wish I could be more helpful in the solution.

I have not been restarting my computer on a daily basis but only putting it in sleep mode to avoid the 10 min startup every morning. I did have a supplemental update to 10.6.8 about a week ago as well as an HP Printer Software Update, but I'm sure that I have restarted my computer a few times since then.
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8/18/11 10:43:41 PM com.apple.WindowServer[70] Thu Aug 18 22:43:41 localhost WindowServer[70] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.


Hello everyone, this is my second thread in here about this same problem. With everyone in heres help i think i have come down to the very root of this problem. Here is a link to the other thread with a list of everything iv tried and have:



I am pretty sure that this error i get in console is my issue:

Code:
8/18/11 10:43:41 PM	com.apple.WindowServer[70]	Thu Aug 18 22:43:41 localhost WindowServer[70] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.

Here is the error report from start to desktop:

Code:
8/18/11 10:42:24 PM	com.apple.launchd[1]	*** launchd[1] has started up. ***
8/18/11 10:43:41 PM	com.apple.WindowServer[70]	Thu Aug 18 22:43:41 localhost WindowServer[70] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
8/18/11 10:43:48 PM	com.apple.launchctl.Aqua[104]	com.apple.ReportCrash.Self: Already loaded
8/18/11 10:43:55 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[85]	(com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[118]) Exited with exit code: 1
8/18/11 10:44:33 PM	com.apple.launchd[1]	(com.apple.xprotectupdater[16]) Exited with exit code: 255
8/18/11 10:49:53 PM	SystemUIServer[107]	It does not make sense to draw an image when [NSGraphicsContext currentContext] is nil.  This is a programming error. Break on _NSWarnForDrawingImageWithNoCurrentContext to debug.  This will be logged only once.  This may break in the future.


I have visited a few other sites and forums and seen other people who are having this 10 min boot problem and think its related to this error. Almost all of the forums iv read on it are just left empty handed or they came up with a solution that didnt/doesnt work for me.


Maybe some of you guys can tell me whats going on with this code and how i can resolve it.


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Bump, Really need help on this.... can anyone read the code?
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Bump, Really need help on this.... can anyone read the code?
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Please do not start another thread. Keep your replies to the one thread that you already have in progress. Your new posts have been merged. You can bump this thread anytime to bring it back up to the top, no need to start a new thread.
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Ok. Sorry about that. It just seems this is a sore subject with everyone.. im not kidding, ever other forum iv been too and found some people with similar problems people just stopped responding in the forum..

This issue is very annoying and i just dont know what else to try.. I mean i feel like i have done everything i can possibly do..

Here is my latest conclusion, i think it has something to do with these codes that come up in console:

Code:
 8/21/11 7:15:01 PM	/usr/libexec/hidd[28]	Timeout waiting for IOKit to be quiet 
8/21/11 7:19:01 PM	WindowServer[69]	Timeout waiting for IOKit to be quiet
Between those two codes in the startup im loosing around 7 minutes in start time. When i start in safe mode it takes around 2-3 minutes to start. Oddly enough when you add that 2-3 minutes to the 7 you get between 9-10 minutes.. the exact same time it takes for the system to start in normal mode.

Has anyone seen this code before and if so, did you ever see a fix for it?



PLEASE i beg everyone on this forum, I really need help with this.. Its been a very long month iv been dealing with it and i dont know how much longer i can take. Im going to be starting school tomorrow and will be taking a online class where ill need this computer to be working alright.. If anyone can help in any way ill be so grateful.


Hope to hear from some of you soon.

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Ok. Sorry about that. It just seems this is a sore subject with everyone.. im not kidding, ever other forum iv been too and found some people with similar problems people just stopped responding in the forum..

This issue is very annoying and i just dont know what else to try.. I mean i feel like i have done everything i can possibly do..

Here is my latest conclusion, i think it has something to do with these codes that come up in console:

Code:
 8/21/11 7:15:01 PM	/usr/libexec/hidd[28]	Timeout waiting for IOKit to be quiet 
8/21/11 7:19:01 PM	WindowServer[69]	Timeout waiting for IOKit to be quiet
Between those two codes in the startup im loosing around 7 minutes in start time. When i start in safe mode it takes around 2-3 minutes to start. Oddly enough when you add that 2-3 minutes to the 7 you get between 9-10 minutes.. the exact same time it takes for the system to start in normal mode.

Has anyone seen this code before and if so, did you ever see a fix for it?



PLEASE i beg everyone on this forum, I really need help with this.. Its been a very long month iv been dealing with it and i dont know how much longer i can take. Im going to be starting school tomorrow and will be taking a online class where ill need this computer to be working alright.. If anyone can help in any way ill be so grateful.


Hope to hear from some of you soon.

Thanks
FWIW I found this reference.

Developer Library

Do you have any third party hardware that might be having driver issues? Other than that, I honestly haven't a clue. Sorry!

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FWIW I found this reference.

Developer Library

Do you have any third party hardware that might be having driver issues? Other than that, I honestly haven't a clue. Sorry!
Nope. Its a fresh install of retail OSX 10.6 and updated to 10.6.8.

I also tried doing a upgrade form Tiger when i had it installed (everything worked perfect then, start and all) and still no difference.

It has crossed my mind that it might be a driver issue, but what driver could it be where everything will work perfect in Tiger but not in SL?

Whatever it is, when i boot in safe mode it by passes it or something because safe mode takes around 2.5 minutes to start.

I have the system.log for a normal boot and for a safe mode boot. Its too long to include in this message, but if you guys think it will be helpful to look at let me know and ill post it


If anyone wants more information please let me know and ill do everything i can.

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As far as using this laptop for school goes just boot it up and keep it in sleep mode throughout the day. I know of people who keep their computers on for years without ever shutting them off.

As far as fixing the problem goes, I honestly don't know what could be causing it. You only have an Intel Core Duo processor correct? So upgrading to Lion isn't an option either.
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As far as using this laptop for school goes just boot it up and keep it in sleep mode throughout the day. I know of people who keep their computers on for years without ever shutting them off.

As far as fixing the problem goes, I honestly don't know what could be causing it. You only have an Intel Core Duo processor correct? So upgrading to Lion isn't an option either.

Well see I would just out it to sleep but when i out it to sleep the thing won't wake up... It just crashes.. So my only option is to leave the computer on with the screen brightness all the way down, and the sleeping settings turned off... Either that or fix the problem...

But yes, the highest upgrade I could have is SL.. I would just downgrade to Leapord but with all the other cases of this problem I have seen online, people are having the same isse with 10.5.. So there's no point... I do have the original copy of 10.4 but Practically nothing now days will run on it... It's like running windows 98..

Grr I hate this!
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Well see I would just out it to sleep but when i out it to sleep the thing won't wake up... It just crashes.. So my only option is to leave the computer on with the screen brightness all the way down, and the sleeping settings turned off... Either that or fix the problem...

But yes, the highest upgrade I could have is SL.. I would just downgrade to Leapord but with all the other cases of this problem I have seen online, people are having the same isse with 10.5.. So there's no point... I do have the original copy of 10.4 but Practically nothing now days will run on it... It's like running windows 98..

Grr I hate this!
Well, Tiger definitely isn't Windows 98. It'll still run quite a few new apps (or at least older versions of new apps) If you're desperate to fix the problem, that may be your only option at this point.
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Hi gwairways. Did you ever figure out a fix to your problem?

Because right now I feel your pain.

I'm running 10.6.8 on a 3,1 macbook with 2gb of ram (original factory ram, I might add) and I'm experiencing the exact same symptoms as you, all the way down to safe mode booting up at around 2-3 minutes and the blue screen lasting for about 10. Only difference is that my macbook originally shipped with 10.5 instead of 10.4 (the symptoms didn't begin until I upgraded to snow leopard though).

I will also add that sometimes, in addition to taking a long time to boot up, osx also takes awhile to fully shut down, with the fan and the indicator light often running upwards of a half a minute or so after the shut down signal and the blanking of the screen. The only way to turn the computer back on during these situations is to hold the power button down until the fan stops (something akin to a hard shut down, I believe), release, and hit the power button again. Other times, when I shut the lid of the macbook, it will be unable to recover from sleep mode and I'll have to do a hard reboot. Have you experienced either of these symptoms?

I have tried everything you have and more, including:
- putting in a brand new, factory sealed sata drive
- replacing the pram battery
- swapping different ram sticks in and out
- multiple clean installs of multiple versions of osx, multiple upgrades from one version to another, etc. Basically multiple combinations of everything imaginable. I've even tried repair disk with outdated versions of disk utility just for schlitz and giggles.

The blue screen still abounds.

Some people who are much wiser than me have indicated that my problem might be the logic board itself, something to do with an IOKit (I'm not sure what this is, nor is google particularly elucidating in this regard). I am inclined to disagree, though, as I've been able to boot various Windows and Linux distributions successfully, all at reasonable speeds. I figured that if my logic board was damaged, I would be having problems with these operating systems as well. Yet Ubuntu, Fedora, XP, and 7 all work fine for me. OS X is the only problem child so far. Have you tried booting a different OS on your computer?
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My analysis on my MBP suggests that problems that I'm experiencing are due to a bug in Chrome which causes a "block_files.cc(459)] File too small" error. See my analysis at https://discussions.apple.com/message/18014918#18014918

Because it appears that you can stop this blue screen startup by delaying your restart, it would be worth a few more people doing what I did to try to find out which program it is that causes the initial problem. Of course, it may be that nobody else finds the same effects as me. If that's the case, it would be worth reporting that as well!
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I was having the same problem for 6 weeks with my macbook no fix, and i finally found this and it fixed the problem. I was about to go by a logicboard or a new computer.

Try it, can't hurt anything..

On your hard drive, go to Systems/Library/Extensions folder
Look for any kext file that starts with IOFirewire, copy them to a new folder on your desktop
Delete the files from your extensions folder.
Reboot.
See if it fixes the problem, if so (or not) copy the files back to the Systems/Library/Extensions folder
Go to Disk Utility and Repair Permissions.
Reboot.
Done.
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