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Hello everyone! I am a professional photographer and I need a really small laptop, I can not have anything bigger than a 13"! I am usually a PC user but well all my work mates and rivals are mac users and I like this idea of simplicity and the elegance of a mac. I was considering the 13" with the 2.66GHz CPU. Would that be good for smooth huge photo file opening, photoshop usage etc..? Also will I need to calibrate the screen? Can anyone comment on the screen? I will also go for 4GB of RAM and the default HDD and perhaps upgrade later on. (I am sort of broke right now, I spent 6000 on a new camera and 3000 worth in lenses!!!)

So a bit about me, I like to play the occasional game, EVE Online mainly. Playing SWTOR once it comes out would be nice too. I travel a lot due to my job which is why I need such a small beast. The battery life is very attractive to me! I will be editing pictures with the monks in Tibet or in a tent in the desert. Mobility is very important and so I can NOT go bigger than 13" because I like to travel light and need to have everything I need in my backpack when I go.

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i have a macbook pro late 2009 (the one over there <<<<<<) and i use photoshop cs4 all the time, it is a bit slow i just need more ram. so the mac you mentioned will work fine
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...I can not have anything bigger than a 13"! I am usually a PC user but well all my work mates and rivals are mac users and I like this idea of simplicity and the elegance of a mac.
If you truly cannot have anything bigger than a 13" laptop...then that sort of makes it easy...since there are just:

- 1 MacBook model
- 2 MacBook Pro models
- 4 MacBook Air models

And if you don't like the MacBook Air (due to it's value, lack of upgradeability, or lack of a CD/DVD drive)...then that really narrows things down even further. Also be aware that there are two MacBook Air 11" models (so even smaller than 13").

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It's mainly MBP 13" vs PC Laptop at this point.
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Is there a specific Windows PC notebook/laptop are you comparing against the 13" MBP? Cause there is a lot of those. >_>"

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It's mainly MBP 13" vs PC Laptop at this point.
What parameters are you using to make this decision?

If you're using the price of the computer as your decision point...then just end this thread now...and buy the Windows computer!

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I really want a mac but well the graphic card is not so good so I want you guys to convince me to go mac anyway! lol
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I'm not a pro photographer by any means, but I am an enthusiast and have done a lot of work with CS3 on my MBP. The original hardware in my MBP was 1 GB of RAM and 120 GB HD...I just recently upgraded and haven't given CS3 a real shot since.

With the original specs I was able to run CS3 and Adobe Bridge simultaneously without too much trouble. It took a few minutes to get both up, but once they were both running there was no lag.

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Also will I need to calibrate the screen? Can anyone comment on the screen?
This is one thing where I've had a problem. I haven't bought any calibrating hardware or software, but from what I've read it's apparently difficult to calibrate the monitor on a MBP. At 13" that's not very much real-estate to do photo editing, and with a MBP if you change the viewing angle the colors can change slightly.

Of course this depends on your income and how much time you put into photography, but if I were a professional and it was my sole source of income I would also get a cinema display for the photo editing. Not only do you have more space to edit, but the colors will stay true with changes in the viewing angle.
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Well I can't really bring a huge laptop into the desert. I travel a lot and the laptop that I buy must be 'it' meaning I won't need a desktop.
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Well I can't really bring a huge laptop into the desert. I travel a lot and the laptop that I buy must be 'it' meaning I won't need a desktop.
Oh...yeah lugging around a 27" cinema display would be a bit cumbersome! I was thinking you would be doing most of the editing at home and simply wanted to use the MBP for the occasional edit while on the road.
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I really want a mac but well the graphic card is not so good so I want you guys to convince me to go mac anyway! lol
Nope...not going to do it! We ran through one of these threads this past weekend...and the person ended up buying the Windows computer.

- You already said that you've always used Windows computers...and have not owned a Mac.
- You are probably already 90% convinced to buy the Windows computer.
- and you've already said that you think that the graphics hardware in the MacBook is not as good as you would like.

So there really is no point in "trying to convince you"...I think that you've already made up your mind!

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So there really is no point in "trying to convince you"...I think that you've already made up your mind!

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I agree Nick. And we arnt here to convince you. We are here to give you all the knowledge we have for you to make a educated decision on said knowledge

Good luck in your purchase . . . .

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I agree Nick. And we arnt here to convince you. We are here to give you all the knowledge we have for you to make a educated decision on said knowledge
Exactly the angle I'm coming from.

Ask questions...we attempt to give answers...maybe even give an opinion...but convincing someone to buy a Mac is really the individuals job.

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I'm with Nick on this one. And wow, this is going to be the second time (as Nick has also stated) this week that someone is thinking about getting a Mac for all the wrong reasons.

As a photographer myself, there are two things which would have swayed me away from owning the MacBook Pro's that I do, for editing and traveling... One, is the MBP's beautiful glossy screen. Yes, it's gorgeous, but it's also inaccurate when dealing with color profiles. Only the 15" comes in a matte screen, and unless you want a product that looks totally different in print, from what you see on screen, the glossy is not the way to go.

Secondly, I would find it difficult to do real editing on a 13" monitor all the time. It's going to change your entire perspective. I understand about traveling and needing something lightweight, but honestly, the 15" isn't all that much heavier or bulky! I'd seriously consider that were I you.

Third, and more importantly, don't get a Mac just because your friends or rivals have one, that's really silly and very unprofessional. You use what streamlines your work flow the most, and in this case that's Windows! You're going to start learning an new OS, which is only going to slow you down, and you technically shouldn't have time for any of that if you're in the field.

But hey, if you really feel the need to dismiss logic, then by all means, get a Mac. They're great machines for sure. That said, should you get a Mac, you're NOT going to be happy with a baseline MacBook Pro. They're powerful machines, but if you're really data crunching, you'll need plenty of memory and a fast processor. Plus, that matte screen I mentioned wouldn't hurt.

I'm not out in the field these days, so I don't have any time constraints, and my late model 08' MBP handles CS5 and Lightroom 3 pretty well, though in general I try not to run them both simultaneously when editing larger tiffs and layers. I've got Aperture 3 as well, but I'm only trying it again as of late, to see if it's still the resource hog it was last year. Thus far, it seems to still be a big hoggish.

Last word: I wouldn't settle for anything less than the i5 Macbook Pro (the i7 would be better though) if I were you. I'd upgrade the HD to a 7200RPM model, purchase aftermarket memory (to increase to 8 gigs or more) and go for the Hi res anti-glare matte screen. If you're a professional, it's something you owe to yourself as an investment in for your career. Simple as that.

Otherwise, if it's money which is the problem, do yourself a favor and get a blazing fast Windows machine and stop dwelling on what "computers" your peers are using. It's your photography which matters, and the timely fashion in how it is delivered and presented. If you had said that you needed an application that was only available for OS X, then it would be logical for you to go that route, but we're talking about Photoshop, and maybe another program that is native to Windows, right?

Save your money and get an Windows machine IMO. Get new glass instead with the money saved!

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...wow, this is going to be the second time (as Nick has also stated) this week that someone is thinking about getting a Mac for all the wrong reasons.
Doug,

Great post!

Being a photographer, certainly adds a key perspective. I know that some of your points are just being brutally honest (which is the way I am sometimes)...but sometimes you have to use "tough love" to get through!

I think that in the end...folks that want to get a Mac (but don't have the STRONG reasons for doing it)...would be thanking us 1000 times over that they went with the $599 Windows laptop, rather than the $1500 Macintosh.

Hey...I want folks to switch to Mac's as much as the next Mac-User (if it's the right thing for them)! But I don't want them to purchase a $1500 Mac...then 2-4 weeks later post about negative experiences due to learning the new OS (Mac OS X), or upset because they spent so much money.

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