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I have just brought a apple G4 powerbook off a mutal friend who has moved to australia,my nightmare has started.

Problem one is he did not format the harddrive as he promied

Problem two is now i can't log in to the system because i don't know his password and i am having diffuculties contacting him.

Problem three is i have tried booting from os 9.2 and a error type 11 comes up during set-up telling me to restart the machine with extentions off which i did to no avail.

Problem four is i tried booting from os 10.2 and it just crash's with white horizontal lines or just tell's me to re-start in four languages.

I have tried zapping the pram , resetting it , taking out one of my memory sticks still !!!!!!!!!! to avail

I need help despertly as i really want it to run.

please please please help me help me help me, apple have not been very usefull apart from telling me it is most probably a hardware issue and that starts at a flat rate of 300 which i have not got after spending 800 buying it , can any users come to the rescue ??????????


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The Firewire target disk mode solution is your best bet-assuming this is a software issue. If this doesn't work, you have either motherboard or drive problems. Target disk mode doesn't use RAM (only the openfirmware and the hard drive) so that would not be a factor.
1) Turn your PB off and connect a 6pin-6pin Firewire cable from it to another Mac's Firewire port. Preferably, that operating Mac will be running OS 10.2.x.
2) Now power-on your PB while holding the T key down until you see the FireWire icon on your screen. Cross your fingers and watch your PB show up as a firewire drive on the other Mac's desktop.
3) Run disk utility and erase your PB's drive
-decide if you want to install OS 9 or use this as a firewire drive on OS 9 machine and if so, install the OS 9 drivers. Partition the drive the way you want. I believe it is useful to make at least two partitions-especially if you install OS 9 on the other partition. That way, you can boot from the other partition if you have disk problems.
4) That should solve your problems. Install OS X and be on your way.


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i hope it is not a hardware issue but i am dodgy about my samsung ram ,which i tested by taking one out and vice versa to no avail if it was a ram issue one of them at least would be working, or maybe not i hear these samsung's are problematic, but if that was the case then the os version already on thier would not have booted from cd when originally installed, i think it may be a openware problem where it is protected against booting from cd if you don't know the start-up passwords, maybe just maybe the firewire thing may delete these settings , cause i reset the pram so it is unlikely to be a bios issue if it is maybe i can upgrade the bios in firewire mode. !!!!

anyway i will let you guys know happened hopefully good news


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[QUOTE=gokhan]I have just brought a apple G4 powerbook off a mutal friend who has moved to australia,my nightmare has started.

Problem one is he did not format the harddrive as he promied

Problem two is now i can't log in to the system because i don't know his password and i am having diffuculties contacting him.

Problem three is i have tried booting from os 9.2 and a error type 11 comes up during set-up telling me to restart the machine with extentions off which i did to no avail.

Problem four is i tried booting from os 10.2 and it just crash's with white horizontal lines or just tell's me to re-start in four languages.

I have tried zapping the pram , resetting it , taking out one of my memory sticks still !!!!!!!!!! to avail

I need help despertly as i really want it to run.

please please please help me help me help me, apple have not been very usefull apart from telling me it is most probably a hardware issue and that starts at a flat rate of 300 which i have not got after spending 800 buying it , can any users come to the rescue ??????????


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The Firewire target disk mode solution is your best bet-assuming this is a software issue. If this doesn't work, you have either motherboard or drive problems. Target disk mode doesn't use RAM (only the openfirmware and the hard drive) so that would not be a factor.
1) Turn your PB off and connect a 6pin-6pin Firewire cable from it to another Mac's Firewire port. Preferably, that operating Mac will be running OS 10.2.x.
2) Now power-on your PB while holding the T key down until you see the FireWire icon on your screen. Cross your fingers and watch your PB show up as a firewire drive on the other Mac's desktop.
3) Run disk utility and erase your PB's drive
-decide if you want to install OS 9 or use this as a firewire drive on OS 9 machine and if so, install the OS 9 drivers. Partition the drive the way you want. I believe it is useful to make at least two partitions-especially if you install OS 9 on the other partition. That way, you can boot from the other partition if you have disk problems.
4) That should solve your problems. Install OS X and be on your way.


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i hope it is not a hardware issue but i am dodgy about my samsung ram ,which i tested by taking one out and vice versa to no avail if it was a ram issue one of them at least would be working, or maybe not i hear these samsung's are problematic, but if that was the case then the os version already on thier would not have booted from cd when originally installed, i think it may be a openware problem where it is protected against booting from cd if you don't know the start-up passwords, maybe just maybe the firewire thing may delete these settings , cause i reset the pram so it is unlikely to be a bios issue if it is maybe i can upgrade the bios in firewire mode. !!!!

anyway i will let you guys know happened hopefully good news


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i dont think it's my harddrive cause i ran fsck -y and it came up fine any other suggestions ???????????????????
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Can you get your hand on another 10.2 boot CDROM? If so I would try it to rule out a bad CDROM disk. Once you are able to boot , you should be able to change the system pass word.
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Can you get your hand on another 10.2 boot CDROM? If so I would try it to rule out a bad CDROM disk. Once you are able to boot , you should be able to change the system pass word.
and tried to install os 9 and get the same problem's as before so i really don't know what it could be ?????????

on top of that i tried to get apple to fix the powerbook but appartly i am giving them the wrong serial num ,one digit too many according to them, which i am not cause i am giving the number by removing the keypads not the serial number near the battery cause thats come off !!!!!!!!!

apple not being helpfull

nothing seems to be doing the trick

and stupid tech's want 70 to tell me the thing has a problem as if i don't know !!!!!!!

help anybody !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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