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Apple Notebooks Apple's notebook computers including MacBook Pro, MacBook, MacBook Air, PowerBook, and iBook.

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Is Apple planning to release a Macbook Pro with intel i7 processors and if so then when? Sorry if this question was already asked but I searched and couldn't find it.
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Is Apple planning to release a Macbook Pro with intel i7 processors and if so then when?
They aren't planning to release an i7 MBP, until they release it, in which case you and I will both know.

At the same time.

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I'm new here. Never yet owned a Mac but wanting to purchase the MBP 17". However, shopping around Dell offers a monster of a machine for much less (specs below) featuring the new i7 chip. It would be great to know how long I'd have to put off a purchase on the MAC for the i7. It's odd really that a company that boasts its progressiveness is so far behind the curve. From reports I've seen the i7 smokes the older chips.

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So, processor speed is the only benchmark for progressive design? Interesting, I guess the featureless trackpads and plastic in dell's computers must be much better than aluminum too!


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So, processor speed is the only benchmark for progressive design? Interesting, I guess the featureless trackpads and plastic in dell's computers must be much better than aluminum too!

Well, while the MAC is hands down better looking, I am looking to purchase a computer, not just pretty aluminum housing. So, yup, as a processor is a core element to a computer, so to speak, I'd say it is more important than just a pretty aluminum skin. Remember what they say, it's what's on the inside that counts
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No one is arguing with you on the hardware. If you really need a i7 Quad core notebook this instant then by all means buy it.

Those are very nice specs, the downside is it doesn't run the Mac OS and never will.

As for me I think I'll wait a few months before buying anything.

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Well, while the MAC is hands down better looking, I am looking to purchase a computer, not just pretty aluminum housing. So, yup, as a processor is a core element to a computer, so to speak, I'd say it is more important than just a pretty aluminum skin. Remember what they say, it's what's on the inside that counts
Stupid question but... What exactly are you going to be using this "super" computer for ? The only real benefit I can see with that Dell is the Blue Ray drive. But even that isn't much of an issue unless you reeeeally enjoy watching BR movies on a screen who's maximum size is 17 inches and where the speakers are not so great, to say the least. And don't say you'd use it while hooked up to a larger screen and better speakers UNLESS you have absolutely no other home audio/video gear. And I can get a nice BR burner and put it in an E-SATA housing, so whatever.

That said, you are totally missing the point with all of your fancy specs. It still runs Windows. And that sir, IS the point. I'm 37. Former Windows user. Since version 2.1 (also had some Amiga's, a Commodore 64 and some other stuff which eludes me at the moment)

I stopped using Windows when Vista was being built up and was reportedly going to replace XP. Switched to various flavors of Linux and settled on Ubuntu. Stopped using Ubuntu in the Summer of 2008, which is when I bought my MacBook Pro. Started off disliking OS X for a good few months, cursing and acting like a cry baby, making my wife think twice about her decision to marry me... . Until I realized what was happening. I was trying to make OSX behave like a linux or Windows system.

When I stopped doing that, and actually learned how to use the interface and even some terminal stuff, I was actually working more that I ever was with either Linux or Windows. XP was fine, actually, but still a much bigger hassle at the end of the day.

If you're a gamer, then praise be to the Windows system. (thanks to greedily written contracts between Windows and hardware/software manf.) If not, then there's absolutely nothing I can't do, if not better with OS X. (with the exception of iTunes. It works the way I need it to now, but it was a battle and I hate it)

I work with Photoshop and Lightroom and I'm learning how to use Illustrator. I've used these on Windows, also and there's no difference except for minor tweaks in the GUI. And in those terms, they all seem a lot more streamlined in OS X.

And as far as the trackpad on the MacBook's go ? If you've never used one, I suggest you try. It's a true evolutionary step ahead which the Windows' fellas don't seem to get. I can't tell you how much it really speeds up your workflow.

And yes, I've tried Windows 7. It is an definite improvement, but it's nowhere near being as different from other iterations of Windows as people are made to believe. Whooptie doo.. some eye candy. Eye candy mind you, which is more flash than function. Not to mention the FACT that the ideas have been in use by Linux GUI's for more than a few years now.

Ok great, they took some code from XP, some from Vista and made it more stable. Wow, what a feat. Can you say "should have been" ? Day late, dollar short and still nothing that impresses me. It still looks and feels like Windows. I still think it's ugly. And I still think it needs the same anti virus, anti spyware and malware babysitting that it always has.

I've not seen one bit of this since 2005, which is when I strayed from XP, after having beta tested Vista.

So you can take your fancy pants specs which nary serve a real purpose, (again, unless you're a gamer and are using a desktop) and be happy with Windows. I was able to whip any spec'd out Vista machine in terms of stability and speed with my Linux system which had LESS specs, simply because my OS wasn't so ****ed resource hungry.

Specs don't impress. The OS which utilize what the specs are capable are, does.

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Thanks Doug. It's those arguments that are pushing me from a lifetime of PC use towards the MAC. WHen I was in school I literally received one of the first pentium laptops directly from NEC, before even the media got their hands on one. I've used windows so long I am comfortable with navigating through its messy maze. But now with Windows 7 there is a bit more to learn and it simply is not as "pretty" as the MAC OS.

That said, the most resource hungry thing I do is converting video files from my video camera and its SD memory card. I've read on forums where MACBOOK users lament the Mac laptop takes a while to do this whereas the i7 chip burns through such tasks.

My purchasing decision would be made easier if (a) Apple "kept up with" Dell and others who have already released the i7 laptops or if (b) Apple would indicate when they'll make such a release.

Apple has a great OS but a four core chip not only levels the field, but makes the Apple absent such a chip an overpriced accessory by comparison, IMO. I want the Apple, just not with yesteryear's technology.
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Well, while the MAC is hands down better looking, I am looking to purchase a computer, not just pretty aluminum housing. So, yup, as a processor is a core element to a computer, so to speak, I'd say it is more important than just a pretty aluminum skin. Remember what they say, it's what's on the inside that counts
Unibody aluminum casings are not all Apple has to offer. As Crimson said, if you really need it right now, then buy it.

Also, how much cheaper is the Dell?

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Also, how much cheaper is the Dell?
The Dell, with discounts, is $1549. The Mac is $2898 with same 3 year warranty like the Dell. If I put in the top of the line Duo processor for the Apple at 3.06 GHz it jumps to $3198. Then there's tax on both units and another $130 some odd dollars tax for the Apple. I'd pay more but for that much less? I tetrabite HD space, 1 GB video card, i7 processor, 1333 RAM, RGB LED 1080p 17.3" screen, Blue Ray, etc.

If only Apple would release info on if and when they'll be updating their products. I'd pay more for similar specs to buy the Mac, but I don't want to be foolish with my money either.
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Give me a core 2 with mac os x any day over a 20 core (when it comes around in the future) with windwos any day of the week!

I know 7 has improved a ton, but it's still windows and still very similar problems. But at the end of the day a windows machine really is not ALL that bad. From what it all sounds like...you've already made your choice. You really should go get the Dell. I'm sure you'll be happy with it, it's a great machine. Yes there are advantages to a mac, but then again there are for pc's too.

It seems that you won't be happy with a core 2 duo processor so go with the Dell. OR you can wait until the new i7 macbook pro's come along. Yes it's just a matter of time until that happens but who knows when. I literally could be tomorrow or a year from now.

Just a word here...

I have a 15 inch MBP with a 2.8 ghz core 2 and I do much heavier work and tasking then you do (from what you've told us)...and I've NEVER yet run into a serious hold up, problem, or big enough slow down for me to care. I truly...truly...truly believe that the biggest factor in performance isn't the speed or core of the cheap (of course that matters too but not as much), but the way the operating system uses it's resources. That being said...I'll take this core 2 with mac os x over a windows with an i7 any day.

Forget the pretty casing...I want the operating system!

P.S. It will be a very nice day though when the i7 MBP's arrive though hehe
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No, I've not made up my mind. I want the MAC, that's why I've not pulled the trigger on the Dell. Wonder if any folks from Apple review these threads and figure it would be wise to at least tease the Apple faithful rather than keeping so quiet. I suspect lots of PC people like myself are at a crossroads. Windows does have the leg up media wise now with the one two punch of Windows 7 and the i7. Coincidence? It will be interesting to see fourth quarter results for Dell and APPLE. I want the MAC. Will pay more for it. But I want Apples for Apples, not old Apples.
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Makes sense!

I would say congrats on your choice...but then I would seem a bit bias no

You know one thing I have to say about not only most computer users, but myself as well is that we typically tend to really over estimate what we really need sometimes. And by doing so we not only over pay, but we end up with something that really isn't as satisfying or for that matter not even being able to notice the difference. You have to do some pretty heavy stuff to really start stretching the potential of a 3.06 core 2 much less an i7.

I would be willing to bet that with some exceptions, you really won't notice much of a difference between the processors unless you were doing some pretty heavy stuff.
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If you need the power now, why not snag the Dell, throw your favorite Linux distro on it and then use Virtual Box to emulate whatever OS you like? Just a thought.

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