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Old 11-02-2009, 10:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy My MBP Just hit a temperature of 102 Celsius (215 Fahrenheit!)!

My MBP has been hitting high temperatures for a while now with a general temperature of between 80 and 90 celsius when only running mail, a few web pages and itunes.

Was on the phone to apple care support for over an hour and they did a few system restore things and had me reinstall snow leopard but this didnt solve the problem.

i have smcFanControl and the temperature shown in the attached (blurry) picture was when the fans were running at a max.

what should i do :/

i wanted a good apple laptop - not a kettle!

the laptop is on a wooden desk with plenty of space all around it so its not that the airflow is blocked or anything either
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Take it back to the apple store!
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Take it back to the apple store!
what will they do? do i just walk into any store with it and tell them this?
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you are confident that the hot air can leave the MBP ( at the back under the hinge ) then I would open up Activity Monitor and look at which application is burning the CPU cycles that generate the heat.
Shut that app. down and monitor the impact on the temp.

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In my opinion - turn off whatever monitoring application you're using, uninstall smcFanControl and enjoy your MacBook Pro without being paranoid. If there is a problem, it will turn itself off long before any damage can occur.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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In my opinion - turn off whatever monitoring application you're using, uninstall smcFanControl and enjoy your MacBook Pro without being paranoid. If there is a problem, it will turn itself off long before any damage can occur.
yeah i get what your saying, i might be being paranoid but surely getting above the temperature it takes to boil water when not doing anything on the laptop that'd be considered taxing should be a bit worrying?
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yeah i get what your saying, i might be being paranoid but surely getting above the temperature it takes to boil water when not doing anything on the laptop that'd be considered taxing should be a bit worrying?
Modern computers run very warm. And they have a much smaller case with which to dissipate heat. As such, the SMC in your machine monitors everything closely and the fans are thermostatically controlled to mitigate those temps efficiently. When you install a program like smcFanControl, you're telling the SMC "I want to do this manually". So, it's no surprise that the machine can't manage its own temps down.

Frankly, it's my belief that the warranty should be voided the second you disable the SMC's control over the fans.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't care what anybody says. If my computer was running 200F+ at idle, I would want to find out why and take it in. smcFanControl doesn't disable the automatic fan speeds unless you manually change the speed in the app. I use smcFanControl but only to monitor the temp. and fan speeds, not to change them.
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I would like to point out that SMCfancontrol doesn't fully disable the SMC's control over the fans. It simply increases the minimum speed the fans will run at. If you set the speed at 2500 rpm, it will always stay at that rpm regardless if it frozen cold, but if it gets warmer, the 2500 rpms will get overridden by the computers control. At least that's how mine runs! Can we just forget about the smcfancontrols! Download istats to find out what the temps are for each individual computer part. From there, you can find out what is causing the greatest heat.
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I will never understand why people feel the need to obsess over the temperatures of their laptops. An overclocked desktop rig, sure. But it's a laptop, it's designed to run within a specific tolerance. If it's running outside of that tolerance, it will shut down and will need to be serviced - period.
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I don't care what any of these people say about how it will shut off if it needs to. If your using a laptop and its hot enough to boil water you need to take it back to the manufacturer. Its a safety hazard if your gonna be putting it near your body with these insane temps
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I don't care what any of these people say about how it will shut off if it needs to. If your using a laptop and its hot enough to boil water you need to take it back to the manufacturer. Its a safety hazard if your gonna be putting it near your body with these insane temps
Sure, if that's the temp on the surface. He's reading the temp at the chip. That's a little different.
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CWA, the cpu should not be above 35-60C when running those apps.

People feel the need to obsess over CPU and other system temps because it prolongs the life of the CPU and can key you off to things that are going wrong... like me. I was looking at my temperature and noticed it was at 89C while I was doing nothing, then found out that CPU was being owned by SystemGUIServer thanks to DST. These things help.
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what will they do? do i just walk into any store with it and tell them this?
Yes! I don't understand your hesitation. When I pay $2-3000 for a machine, I make sure that a liable source says it's running at optimal conditions.

Assuage your apprehensions and take it in. Or don't, if you don't feel that strongly about it.
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CWA, the cpu should not be above 35-60C when running those apps.
I agree. But take a baseline without interfering with the SMC and sort the Activty Monitor by Process/% of CPU.

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People feel the need to obsess over CPU and other system temps because it prolongs the life of the CPU and can key you off to things that are going wrong... like me. I was looking at my temperature and noticed it was at 89C while I was doing nothing, then found out that CPU was being owned by SystemGUIServer thanks to DST. These things help.
Typically I can tell if there's a runaway process, simply by how the machine performs. I don't let an aribitrary measurement like temperature, which can be influenced by so many other factors, be the gauge of a problem.
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