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Old 11-03-2009, 03:40 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Nor do I unless my laptop is running above 60C. I realize that for what I do, 35-60 is a pretty normal temp, unless I have flash player running, in which case low 60s to 70s for non video playback and 70-80 with video playback. Temperature is a good thing to keep an eye on, as is cpu usage. I monitor both with iStat. I realize that there are acceptable limits, but I want to know before my machine is pushing itself towards danger so that I can rectify the problem. If I had been monitoring my powermac G5, maybe I could have prolonged its life well beyond the 3 and 3/4 years that it did live.

Also, my system was responsive when the DST bug hit. It was only taking available CPU usage and burning through my leg. I'd rather not risk damage to my computer than let my processor get ridiculously warm for too long. It's good to notice when it starts, as it is good to notice with your car when your temperature gauge is getting too high.

The point is, it doesn't matter if you monitor your system that way or a different way. The OP monitors his system in this manner and has a cpu recording temperatures of over 100ºC. That is terrible for his hardware and needs to be corrected.

to the OP: I would follow McBie's advice. If you find a runaway process in activity monitor, let us know what it is and maybe we can try to help.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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That is a bummer - while trying to solve the problem here is a link to (hopefully) some humor to ease the situation:

101 things to do with a warm laptop
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Nor do I unless my laptop is running above 60C. I realize that for what I do, 35-60 is a pretty normal temp, unless I have flash player running, in which case low 60s to 70s for non video playback and 70-80 with video playback. Temperature is a good thing to keep an eye on, as is cpu usage. I monitor both with iStat. I realize that there are acceptable limits, but I want to know before my machine is pushing itself towards danger so that I can rectify the problem. If I had been monitoring my powermac G5, maybe I could have prolonged its life well beyond the 3 and 3/4 years that it did live.

Also, my system was responsive when the DST bug hit. It was only taking available CPU usage and burning through my leg. I'd rather not risk damage to my computer than let my processor get ridiculously warm for too long. It's good to notice when it starts, as it is good to notice with your car when your temperature gauge is getting too high.

The point is, it doesn't matter if you monitor your system that way or a different way. The OP monitors his system in this manner and has a cpu recording temperatures of over 100ºC. That is terrible for his hardware and needs to be corrected.

to the OP: I would follow McBie's advice. If you find a runaway process in activity monitor, let us know what it is and maybe we can try to help.


as you can see, im pretty much just surfing the net and the current temperature is 83 (181 fahrenheit). This is the lower end of my general use temperature range.

p.s. thanks for the help, you're all very kind!
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:35 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Look at the CPU history though... both cores are spiking and plateauing for a considerable amount of time.

Is the Flash player up to date?
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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under the 'all processes, hierarchically' it looks like this;



could it be something to do with the iAntiVirus thing at the bottom??

as long as i can remember my CPU usage thing at the bottom has looked pretty full :/
might take it to the apple store in Cambridge on thursday and hope they'll look at it (dont know what they can do for it tho that i didnt try on the phone to apple care support)
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Absolutely. Antivirus software is useless on Macs anyway. Uninstall it and see if there's a difference.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:58 PM   #24 (permalink)
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under the 'all processes, hierarchically' it looks like this;



could it be something to do with the iAntiVirus thing at the bottom??

as long as i can remember my CPU usage thing at the bottom has looked pretty full :/
might take it to the apple store in Cambridge on thursday and hope they'll look at it (dont know what they can do for it tho that i didnt try on the phone to apple care support)
Yup that looks like the culprit to be honest! lol 96% of the CPU usage right there! Try disabling it and see if all goes back to normal

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Absolutely. Antivirus software is useless on Macs anyway. Uninstall it and see if there's a difference.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:02 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yea, I would uninstall iAntivirus since honestly, you don't need it. I've been using Mac OS my entire life and never once have infected my computer, and I did some heavy pirating early in my teens. See if that makes a difference. You'll notice CWA's only using 16.2% of his CPUs capacity. You're using 53% of yours. Using 53% of your CPU constantly will definitely cause those temperature increases, and you'll definitely notice a difference in temperature if you lower that number. Also, you may be thinking "how can I be using 96% with iantivirus but only be using 53% of my cpu?" Activity monitor will assign each core 100% for a total of 200% in the individual breakdown, but its overall breakdown at the bottom is based out of 100%.
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Wow, you ALL beat me to it.
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that seems to have solved it thank you soo much to all of you who have helped!
cant believe a simple program like iAntiVirus would use up so much processor power!
think im going to delete the fan control program; getting up to 65 celsius, like it currently is, im happy with

thanks again!
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Woohoo! Glad to hear it worked. Enjoy your nice cool machine now!
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:09 AM   #30 (permalink)
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The temps have dropped, but why are the fans running at 5000rpm+ ?

Are they manually controlled through a separate app. ?

Edit: My stupid question, you already indicated that they were manuall controlled in your post above :-) Blame my eyes.

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