New To Mac-Forums?

Welcome to our community! Join the discussion today by registering your FREE account. If you have any problems with the registration process, please contact us!

Get your questions answered by community gurus Advice and insight from world-class Apple enthusiasts Exclusive access to members-only contests, giveaways and deals

Join today!

 
Start a Discussion
 

Mac-Forums Brief

Subscribe to Mac-Forums Brief to receive special offers from Mac-Forums partners and sponsors

Join the conversation RSS
Apple Notebooks Apple's notebook computers including MacBook Pro, MacBook, MacBook Air, PowerBook, and iBook.

MacBook Pro - is keeping it plugged in bad for battery?


Post Reply New Thread Subscribe

 
Thread Tools
newapplerornot

 
Member Since: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 8
newapplerornot is on a distinguished road

newapplerornot is offline
Hi everyone

i'm evaluating the possibility to get a MacBook Pro 13-inch: 2.53GHz but what let me wonder is this thing about the NON-rechangeable battery + Apple.com saying that it's better NOT to leave the computer ALWAYS attached to the home/house energy (or any other places) like every normal electrical object

so my question is: keeping it always connected to the energy grid(whatever) it's NOT healty for the hardware ?

(i would use it MOSTLY indoor, at the evening in bedroom, or in other houses when i move for some reason, NOT like living on its battery -recharged before- on a green green field in a sunny day)

and of course, im not going to use it for writing texts (but much videos, flash content, graphic programs etc)



SHOULDNT SUCH a computer have 2 separate energy ways
1) direct from your house grid (not passing and NOT touching/burning your battery
2) direct from your battery (which gets older depending on usage)

if the situation is a mix of 1+2 im disappointed (Whatever you use it at home or in a park, the battery gets old and you have to face a repair/fix = and the money for it)

wherever you get the energy from, the battery weakens and you have to face a change.

QUOTE Thanks
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 26,331
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapplerornot View Post
i'm evaluating the possibility to get a MacBook Pro 13-inch: 2.53GHz but what let me wonder is this thing about the NON-rechangeable battery + Apple.com saying that it's better NOT to leave the computer ALWAYS attached to the home/house energy (or any other places) like every normal electrical object

so my question is: keeping it always connected to the energy grid(whatever) it's NOT healty for the hardware ?
Firstly...I'm not sure where you got the info about the:

"MacBook Pro 13-inch 2.53GHz but what let me wonder is this thing about the NON-rechargable battery"...are you sure that you don't mean...non-replaceable battery (at least not replaceable by the user)?

Of course the battery is rechargeable...it would be pretty darn inconvenient to have a "non-rechargeable" battery in a laptop computer!

As far as battery care...here is what Apple has to say about it:

Apple - Batteries - Notebooks

Hope this helps,

- Nick

- Computer slow, too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some speedup tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks
newapplerornot

 
Member Since: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 8
newapplerornot is on a distinguished road

newapplerornot is offline
in other words

a normal desktop computer, doesnt have a battery and ' could ' last 100 years (if other hw doesnt start failing)


keeping it connected to the grid, is not a good choice (apple says)
so it cannot have a separate destiny from its non removable battery

wheater u want or not, you are going to burn your battery (or not ?)
and so you are going to pay 130-170 euro/dollars again to Apple, or accept a new offer for a new Apple model

isnt that some kind of slavery ?
QUOTE Thanks
mikey.b@gmx.com

 
mikey.b@gmx.com's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 05, 2008
Location: Guildford, near London, UK
Posts: 128
mikey.b@gmx.com is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: MacBook4,1 2.4Ghz C2D 4GB RAM 160GB HD OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard | iPod Touch 16gb 2G

mikey.b@gmx.com is offline
The battery in the new MBP's is non removable, not non rechargeable!
It is not bad for the battery to have it plugged in, but having it plugged in ALL the time is bad for it. Use your MBP without it plugged in reasonably regularly, and you will not have problem. You can still spend the majority of the time you use your MBP with it plugged in, just remember to use it on battery power sometimes, and calibrate it.
QUOTE Thanks
newapplerornot

 
Member Since: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 8
newapplerornot is on a distinguished road

newapplerornot is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
Firstly...I'm not sure where you got the info about the:

MacBook Pro 13-inch 2.53GHz but what let me wonder is this thing about the NON-rechargeable battery

Of course the battery is rechargeable...it would be pretty darn inconvenient to have a "non-rechargable" battery in a laptop computer!

As far as battery care...here is what Apple has to say about it:

Apple - Batteries - Notebooks

Hope this helps,

- Nick

sorry i made some confusion, not NON RECHARGEABLE, but RE-CHANGEABLE or what is the word

apparently (i dont know anything about it but i need to know) wheater u want to use your batter OFF the grid, or you wanna use the GRID(energy) and NOT the battery

you are slave of the battery


is it ?
QUOTE Thanks
newapplerornot

 
Member Since: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 8
newapplerornot is on a distinguished road

newapplerornot is offline
non removable i mean,

but my point is

if i wanna use 5 years this computer AT THE HOME ELECTRIC GRID, should the battery NOT be touched(spoiled/used) at all ?
(of course you will spoil other hw)

but they say IF i keep it connected to the grid all the time (like even a Desktop PC!), the BATTERY gets spoiled

so i cant keep it on the grid? so i am forced to CHARGE-RECHARGE-DISCHARGE the battery (and the more you do the less it lasts, the faster you have to pay another 130-150 euro/dollars)

am i wrong?
QUOTE Thanks
mikey.b@gmx.com

 
mikey.b@gmx.com's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 05, 2008
Location: Guildford, near London, UK
Posts: 128
mikey.b@gmx.com is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: MacBook4,1 2.4Ghz C2D 4GB RAM 160GB HD OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard | iPod Touch 16gb 2G

mikey.b@gmx.com is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapplerornot View Post
non removable i mean,

but my point is

if i wanna use 5 years this computer AT THE HOME GRID, should the battery NOT be touched at all ?
(of course you will spoil other hw)

but they say IF i keep it connected to the grid, the BATTERY gets spoiled

so i cant keep it on the grid?
I'm really not sure what language you are speaking, but as far as I understand you are asking if keeping your notebook on AC power all the time is bad for the battery.

If thats the case, pigoo3 answered your question is his first post. Read the link.
QUOTE Thanks
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 26,331
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapplerornot View Post
but my point is

if i wanna use 5 years this computer AT THE HOME ELECTRIC GRID, should the battery NOT be touched(spoiled/used) at all ?
(of course you will spoil other hw)

but they say IF i keep it connected to the grid all the time (like even a Desktop PC!), the BATTERY gets spoiled

so i cant keep it on the grid? so i am forced to CHARGE-RECHARGE-DISCHARGE the battery (and the more you do the less it lasts, the faster you have to pay another 130-150 euro/dollars)

am i wrong?
What you're NOT factoring into this discussion...is that batteries don't last forever! Even batteries that are NOT USED...slowly undergo degradative changes over time....due to heat, oxidation, etc.

If you want some additional info...read this:

How to prolong lithium-based batteries

Hope this helps,

- Nick

- Computer slow, too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some speedup tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 26,331
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapplerornot View Post
in other words

a normal desktop computer, doesnt have a battery and ' could ' last 100 years (if other hw doesnt start failing)
FYI...many desktop computers (at least Macintosh's) do have a battery...it's called a PRAM battery.

- Nick

- Computer slow, too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some speedup tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks
newapplerornot

 
Member Since: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 8
newapplerornot is on a distinguished road

newapplerornot is offline
THANK YOU MIKEY that was the question (keeping ur nb on AC Power all the time)

link :
Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time.


you are telling me, that Recharging the NB BATTERY is a different job than running the NB with an AC power thing ?

because if it's the same, it's again a countersense (yes you can use your NB AC Powered, but Apple says you shouldnt - while every electrical object is supposed to work that way)
QUOTE Thanks
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 26,331
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapplerornot View Post
you are telling me, that Recharging the NB BATTERY is a different job than running the NB with an AC power thing ?

because if it's the same, it's again a countersense (yes you can use your NB AC Powered, but Apple says you shouldnt - while every electrical object is supposed to work that way)
I don't think that anyone is looking to get into a philosophical discussion.

You have the facts!

If you have BIG issues with the battery in a laptop computer...then buy a desktop!!!

- Nick

- Computer slow, too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some speedup tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks
newapplerornot

 
Member Since: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 8
newapplerornot is on a distinguished road

newapplerornot is offline
pigoo, im not anti apple, i want to buy this sweet thing

but the Battery should be a matter of OUTDOOR (or indoor without electrical Source available)

when i have availability of Electricity (or in the case i want to use it a lot, 85% of its life) why should IT pass thru the battery (desktop pc, dont die if i keep it connected to the AC thing, why does Apple says you better dont ?)
QUOTE Thanks
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 26,331
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapplerornot View Post
pigoo, im not anti apple, i want to buy this sweet thing
No one said anything about being "anti-Apple". Windows laptops have the same laptop battery issues.

If you need portability...then buy a laptop. If you don't need portability...then buy a desktop.

The laptop battery technology that's currently found in laptops "is what it is"...and what you're saying about laptop batteries will not change that fact.

- Nick

- Computer slow, too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some speedup tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks
newapplerornot

 
Member Since: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 8
newapplerornot is on a distinguished road

newapplerornot is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
Windows laptops have the same laptop battery issues.

If you need portability...then buy a laptop. If you don't need portability...then buy a desktop.


i need portability in Electricity Available Environment
(where battery for missing electricity must be an available option, and not the factor of the living of the whole computer)

i cant move my Desktop from the kitchen to the bedroom to the backyard :p
still i have plenty of electricity not to depend on a battery

probably i am asking for a product of a certain category that hasnt been developed properly


thank you for all your kind answers
cheers
QUOTE Thanks
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 26,331
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapplerornot View Post
i need portability in Electricity Available Environment
(where battery for missing electricity must be an available option, and not the factor of the living of the whole computer)
In case that you think that your situation is special...it isn't!!!

I would say that a large majority of users use their laptops because they are portable! So they take their laptop from room to room or building to building...and they keep it plugged in most of the time.

Sure occasionally folks will run on battery power:

- sitting under a tree in the park
- computing next to your favorite river or stream
- mom or dad in the backyard watching the kids playing
- at the Airport where there may not be any electrical outlets
- in a university classroom where there are no electrical outlets

But for most of us...most of the time...we are using our laptops at home, at work, or somewhere where we always have access to electricity!

So your situation is NOT special...so stop acting like it is!

Just buy yourself an Apple laptop...and be happy!

- Nick

- Computer slow, too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some speedup tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


« Installed Hitachi HDD 320gb 7200rpm. | Audio connection between MBP and Vizio HDTV »
Thread Tools

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Startup with iPod plugged in jeax Apple Notebooks 2 07-15-2009 02:44 PM
Time Machine Question: Disk needs to be plugged in? wubrgamer Switcher Hangout 7 04-24-2009 05:32 PM
DVD Player problem: Bad image quality mushyosh Other Hardware and Peripherals 2 11-08-2004 03:04 AM
Please help, plugged EMac into 220V jdhoyman Other Hardware and Peripherals 6 10-24-2004 05:13 AM
Bad RAM fasheezy Apple Notebooks 1 01-03-2004 12:44 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:38 PM.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
X

Welcome to Mac-Forums.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this community the ultimate source for your Mac since 2003!


(4 digit year)

Already a member?