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    Jdurr
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    PB G3 hangs at boot (disk w/ ? icon)
    I have an old PB wallstreet that I bought recently to get my feet wet in the world of Apple. It was very cheap but very stripped. In fact all I got in the mail was the laptop with a battery and a floppy drive. It has OS 10.1 on it, and I think OS 9. I've never had it boot into OS 9 (to my knowledge), but usually when I turn it on, there is a grey or tan screen with a very oldschool looking icon in the center of the screen. The point is I don't know a lot about what I have, or about whats wrong with it.

    Anyway, it worked fine (slow, but fine) until yesterday. I had stuck in a VST zip drive and then turned on the PB. After OS X loaded, I put a disk in the zip drive. Everything locked. I chalked it up to lag and waited a few minuets but still nothing was happening. I tried the ctrl+apple+exit thing with no success, so finally I used the shift+ctrl+apple+power combo to reset it.

    The boot after the reset, and all subsequent boots have resulted in hanging at that grey/tan screen I mentioned earlier, only now there is an icon of a floppy disk with a blinking question mark in the center. I tried taking out all of the drives/batteries unplugging the power adapter, re-attaching the power adapter and starting it with no avail. I tried resetting the PRAM battery and that as well did nothing.

    I could think of no reason why any software would have been damaged, so I neglected a reinstall (also I have no disks or cd-drive).

    Any help is appreciated.

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    have you recently installed any new hardware or software? also, try starting up while holding the shift key to boot without extensions.

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    Jdurr
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    Holding shift did not seem to work.
    As far as new software, there has been none, but this was the first time I was using the zip drive.

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    did you have to install drivers for it to work? if so, that zip drives software may be causing an extension conflict. can you boot into os 9?

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    Jdurr
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    I didn't install any drivers, I just put the zip drive in and powered up, then put a disk in it to see if drivers were there from previous owner. It froze after that.
    Unless there is a button combo to push to make it boot into 9, then I don't think it will.

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    if this was previously owned, Id recommend and erase and install before getting started or making it your own so you get a fresh start, as opposed to starting with someone elses problems.

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    Jdurr
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    I couldnt agree more, however the previous owner decided to not send the OS disks or, more importantly, the cd-rom drive.

    For future reference though, a fresh install should work, right?
    In other words, the 'disk with question mark' icon is a sign of software failure and not hardware failure?

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    you should get an external cd rom of some sort, and do an erase and install, that ? usually means its not recognizing a system folder on the hard drive at all, like theres not one there, the system may be corrupt.

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