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i saw the video of the WWDC 08 and Jobs said it is going to be 64 bit all the way now.. what exactly 64 bit do. i have read in the forums that you can get more use out of your ram from 64 bit, but is that it? sorry if i am asking a stupid question.

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64-bit allows you to address memory beyond 3GB. Leopard already supports 64-bit, so I'm not sure exactly how they intend to optimize that support in Snow Leopard as a 'key feature'.

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so are the MBP now 64bit?

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so are the MBP now 64bit?
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All systems with the Core 2 Dual (not the older Core Duo) are 64 Bit.
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64-bit allows you to address memory beyond 3GB. Leopard already supports 64-bit, so I'm not sure exactly how they intend to optimize that support in Snow Leopard as a 'key feature'.
I'm not sure either, it will be interesting to see what comes out as more and more specs come to light. I'll be upgrading for ZFS anyway

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I'm not sure either, it will be interesting to see what comes out as more and more specs come to light. I'll be upgrading for ZFS anyway
what is ZFS

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ZFS sounds quite insane to say the least

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so if 32 bit will utilize 3.3GB RAM, how much ram do you need to utilize the full 64 bit of RAM...

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so if 32 bit will utilize 3.3GB RAM, how much ram do you need to utilize the full 64 bit of RAM...
A 32-bit operating system can address up to 3GB of RAM. If you have more RAM beyond that, you'll need a 64-bit operating system to address it, otherwise it will be inaccessible. A 64-bit operating system doesn't require a certain amount of memory, it's just a prerequisite to addressing anything above 3GB.

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i meant how much will a 64 bit OS need to be maxed out ... 6GB ?

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i meant how much will a 64 bit OS need to be maxed out ... 6GB ?
No, in theory, we should be talking hundreds of gigabytes.

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if 64 bit is suppose to be that great hunderds of GB's of ram would be insane why the ZFS (128) that you mentioned b4? sounds 64bit would be over kill as it is?

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if 64 bit is suppose to be that great hunderds of GB's of ram would be insane why the ZFS (128) that you mentioned b4? sounds 64bit would be over kill as it is?
In 1994, 8MB of RAM was overkill and 32-bit Operating Systems were just making their debut. ZFS is another topic entirely.

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