New To Mac-Forums?

Welcome to our community! Join the discussion today by registering your FREE account. If you have any problems with the registration process, please contact us!

Get your questions answered by community gurus Advice and insight from world-class Apple enthusiasts Exclusive access to members-only contests, giveaways and deals

Join today!

 
Start a Discussion
 

Mac-Forums Brief

Subscribe to Mac-Forums Brief to receive special offers from Mac-Forums partners and sponsors

Join the conversation RSS
Apple Desktops Discussion of Apple's desktop machines including Mac Pro, iMac, Power Mac, and mini

Powermac G5 & Relevancy in 2012


Post Reply New Thread Subscribe

 
Thread Tools
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 27,791
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
With all of the excitement (and some disappointment) with the announcements made by Apple at the 2012 WWDC yesterday...and in the light that I sold my 2009 8-core Mac Pro last week...I thought that I would dig out my old Powermac G5...and see how it would perform.

I have to say that I haven't used this computer in a while...so I wasn't sure what to expect. Specs on the computer:

- Powermac G5 (from 2004-2005) 7-8 years old
- dual 1.8ghz cpu's
- 4 gig ram
- 160gig HD
- OS 10.5.8
- GeForce FX 5200 video card with just 64meg of vram
- built-in Airport

The primary daily tasks I use my computers for are internet surfing, e-mail, instant messaging, and some video chat. The websites I normally frequent are:

- Cnn.com
- MSN.com
- Online investment sites
- Mac-Forums.com
- Everymac.com
- Macsales.com
- e-Bay
- Insidemacgames.com
- Craig's List
- Apple.com
- etc., etc.

I got to tell you...I would be hard pressed to see much performance difference between this Powermac G5...and my 17" 2.5ghz core 2 duo MacBook Pro...or even the 8-core Mac Pro I recently sold (for the activities I mentioned above).

Even You-Tube and internet video runs smooth as silk...including the new Apple videos for the new products just announced yesterday!

When you consider that internet surfing & e-mail are the primary activities for many many computer users...and the fact that I saw someone last week buy a very similar Powermac G5 on e-Bay for $55 bucks (usually they sell for more like $125-$150). Folks could sure save a lot of money buying a used computer, versus spending $1500-$2000+ for a 27" iMac or the new MacBook Pro with the retina display.

Of course being a long time computer person...I understand the:

- excitement
- "sexiness"
- bragging rights

...of buying & owning the latest model Apple computer.

But you can see the cost gap between a brand new Apple computer ($1500-$2000+), and a 7-8 year-old Powermac G5 ($55-$150)...and the performance gap that the average computer user actually needs...and the amount of performance they actually own in a much newer & more expensive computer.

Of course again...this is primarily for the computing tasks of internet surfing, e-mail, instant messaging, even video chats (tasks most folks do)...I would say a dual-cpu Powermac G5 is just fine...and you certainly cannot beat the price!

If we were talking gaming, video or serious photo editing, running the latest versions of Adobe Creative Suite or Final Cut Pro...a Powermac G5 won't/can't run these apps.

Just something to think about before swiping that credit card or writing that check for $1500-$2000+ for a brand new computer!

- Nick

- Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks
RavingMac

 
RavingMac's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 07, 2008
Location: In Denial
Posts: 7,650
RavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond reputeRavingMac has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 4GB Mac Mini 2012, 13" MBA, 15" MacBook Pro OSX 10.7, 32 GB iPhone 3GS, iPad2 64gb 3G

RavingMac is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
Just something to think about before swiping that credit card or writing that check for $1500-$2000+ for a brand new computer!

- Nick
Very pertinent and time appropriate post!

I am debating exactly this issue right now. My needs are very limited for 90% of what I do . . . on the otherhand I want some serious power for Photography and Video (not so much of the video so far). And, though the Retina Display is beautiful, not sure it really gains me that much.

As much as I hate to admit it, I am honestly thinking about getting a Windows Desktop for Photography and sticking with Mac and IOS for everything else. (Never thought I would find myself thinking that way).

I've always wanted to be smart, handsome and modest. But, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with two out of three . . .
QUOTE Thanks
chscag

 
chscag's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 23, 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 40,857
chscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 27" iMac i5, 3.2 GHz, iPad 3, iPhone 5c, 3 iPods, Yosemite

chscag is offline
Quote:
As much as I hate to admit it, I am honestly thinking about getting a Windows Desktop for Photography and sticking with Mac and IOS for everything else. (Never thought I would find myself thinking that way).
Nothing wrong with that trend of thought. I'm a firm believer in using whatever works best and is currently economical based on what I can afford. Of course there are some who post in these forums who would consider what you said (and I just wrote) blasphemy.
QUOTE Thanks
technologist

 
Member Since: Mar 30, 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 4,744
technologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond reputetechnologist has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 12" Apple PowerBook G4 (1.5GHz)

technologist is offline
The biggest impediment to a G5 in today's world is software support, from Apple and other developers. The G5 was a hot, hungry beast of a chip, and it copes pretty well if you can find the software for it. Unfortunatley, that basically boils down to Linux, or increasingly outdated versions of OS X.

I personally wouldn't pay a dime for one, but if I had one, I'd have no problem putting it to use. And I think that a big ol' G5 tower has a sort of sexiness and bragging rights that no new off-the-shelf Mac can match.
QUOTE Thanks
pigoo3

 
pigoo3's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 20, 2008
Location: U.S.
Posts: 27,791
pigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond reputepigoo3 has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.5

pigoo3 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by technologist View Post
The biggest impediment to a G5 in today's world is software support, from Apple and other developers. The G5 was a hot, hungry beast of a chip, and it copes pretty well if you can find the software for it. Unfortunatley, that basically boils down to Linux, or increasingly outdated versions of OS X.
No disagreement there...totally agree with all of that. The POwermac G5's were definitely "power PIGS"!!

The version of Safari that it runs (5.0.6 from mid-2011) still works great. If it didn't...then that would be a serious negative. I happen to have a lot of software that's 2004-2005 "vintage" to the computer...so I have lots of titles that run great (Office 2004 and Adobe CS3 for example).

Quote:
Originally Posted by technologist View Post
I personally wouldn't pay a dime for one, but if I had one, I'd have no problem putting it to use. And I think that a big ol' G5 tower has a sort of sexiness and bragging rights that no new off-the-shelf Mac can match.
I think considering the computing performance that a dual-cpu Powermac G5 still wields in 2012 isn't too bad. We hear of folks all the time (switchers or brand new Mac-Users) looking for an inexpensive way to try out the "Macintosh Experience".

I'm thinking that a $100-$125 dollar (or even less) dual-cpu Powermac G5 could fit that niche real nice. The key would be that it already comes (at the time of purchase) with a decent amount of ram already installed...and OS 10.5 on the HD. The whole idea goes down the drain if someone has to spend a couple hundred bucks for ram & an OS 10.5 install disk.

- Nick

- Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
QUOTE Thanks
Ihatepcs

 
Member Since: Jan 17, 2009
Posts: 19
Ihatepcs is on a distinguished road

Ihatepcs is offline
Tenfour fox is a ppc port of Firefox runs great!
QUOTE Thanks
Ned B

 
Member Since: Oct 03, 2010
Posts: 27
Ned B is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: iMac 3.0 Ghz C2D 4G Ram

Ned B is offline
timely post indeed. One of my sons might be able to get me a 'free' G5 in the near future. I'd have to buy a monitor, but am looking forward to having a 'spare' Mac to use. I have a 2 yr old iMac for primary computing and so forth, I would use the older one much as you describe; surfing and some light photo editing (the IMac would be my usual platform for photo work).
QUOTE Thanks
Germany_chris

 
Germany_chris's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 31, 2011
Posts: 284
Germany_chris has a spectacular aura about

Germany_chris is offline
In day to day activities I an tell the difference between the computer that score 18,000 on Geekbench and the G5 which score about 2000. There only times I notice a difference is when watching an HD youtube/hulu/amazon video I can't do anything else or the video gets funky. The same thing with handbrake if I'm handbraking something thats what the computer is doing nothing else is going to happen with any speed while handbraking..

Late model PowerPC are relevant in 2012 and will continue to be relevant going forward especially as Flash is replaced with HTML 5.

You should check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7vsZ...ure=plpp_video

Followed by this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if11I...ure=plpp_video

He's a smart young man..

Mac Pro 4,1 (Flashed to 5,1) W3570 3.2 Quad..48GB RAM..Gainward GTX 570 "Phantom."
MacBook Pro 5,2..2.8Ghz C2D..8GB RAM..240GB Vertex +
QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


« display magnification | iMac no power »
Thread Tools

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PowerMac and Quad owners ( post your spec and Picture of your PowerMac) 34skyline Apple Desktops 13 03-09-2006 12:53 AM
PowerMac Core Duo knemonic Apple Rumors and Reports 3 01-13-2006 03:25 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:51 PM.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
X

Welcome to Mac-Forums.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this community the ultimate source for your Mac since 2003!


(4 digit year)

Already a member?