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Apple Desktops Discussion of Apple's desktop machines including Mac Pro, iMac, Power Mac, and mini

Current Mac Pro vs. iMac


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The Mac Pro needs Thunderbolt support because:

a) Apple has committed the entire line to TB, but much more importantly:

b) One of the biggest markets for Mac Pros is in the pro video field. People are working with 4K video files nowadays -- faster and vaster storage is a CONSTANT issue with video editors, and TB is being embraced by video people in a big way.
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The Mac Pro needs Thunderbolt support because:

a) Apple has committed the entire line to TB, but much more importantly:

b) One of the biggest markets for Mac Pros is in the pro video field. People are working with 4K video files nowadays -- faster and vaster storage is a CONSTANT issue with video editors, and TB is being embraced by video people in a big way.
ok. Thanks for the info. I just didn't envision people hooking up external storage devices to a Mac Pro since is has so many internal expansion options. That said, I just watched a video of the Promise Pegasus 12tb in action, and realized that it is faster (in RAID 5 config) than any internal drive... even an SSD. That was kind of mind boggling. Now I want one!!
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ok. Thanks for the info. I just didn't envision people hooking up external storage devices to a Mac Pro since is has so many internal expansion options.
You're probably right in many cases for many Mac Pro owner's...but then again...some folks with Mac Pro's who REALLY push their Mac Pro's to the limit...may have some pretty unusual/unique storage requirements.

Some professional's who have some really large clients...or clients with specific demands...may even keep those client files on separate hard drives (thus this number of HD's could far exceed the Mac Pro's 4 internal bays)...with external drives being the only solution.

Also...the Thunderbolt port is supposed to be MUCH more than just something related to external HD storage...which is why all Macintosh computers are supposed to benefit from it. From the Mac-Mini to the Mac Pro.

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Also...the Thunderbolt port is supposed to be MUCH more than just something related to external HD storage...which is why all Macintosh computers are supposed to benefit from it. From the Mac-Mini to the Mac Pro.
That's what I was hoping you were going to elaborate on
Most of us are aware of the external drive potential, and it can obviously be used to connect a display, or a bunch of displays. I was curious to know if there are other possible uses. I have heard about adapters to use it to connect to USB 3.0 devices, but I doubt that's what you're referring to.
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That's what I was hoping you were going to elaborate on
Most of us are aware of the external drive potential, and it can obviously be used to connect a display, or a bunch of displays. I was curious to know if there are other possible uses. I have heard about adapters to use it to connect to USB 3.0 devices, but I doubt that's what you're referring to.
Have you read these two links:

Apple - Thunderbolt: Next-generation high-speed I/O technology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

These links really do give you a better idea of what Apple hopes to do with "Thunderbolt".

But hey...the computer industry moves VERY quickly...and Apple even faster. After being a Mac-User since 1986...I have seen so many different port styles on Macintosh computers come & go.

This time next year (or the year after that) Thunderbolt could be ancient history! Something else could be developed that is superior to Thunderbolt.

Historically...think of all the different video ports Apple has had over the last 5 years. Hey...remember:

- Firewire?
- How about a full-sized DVI port?
- About 8-10 years ago...Apple had the "ADC" port and cable...which simplified the number of cables between the computer & monitor (one cable for power, video, and sound).

Of course go figure...Windows computers still have a VGA port...which has been around since the 1980's!

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Of course go figure...Windows computers still have a VGA port...which has been around since the 1980's!
It's funny, though... that is actually one of the things that has drawn me over to Apple. Because they don't intentionally try to make new products fully backward compatible with products from many years ago, they end up much more efficient, less buggy, and much more exciting. I like living on the bleeding edge, so this is much better than having a computer that will run software from 10 years ago or supports the same interfaces and hardware.
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Thanks for the links. Interesting reading. Do you think the PC world will ever look into Thunderbolt, or will they hang all their hopes on USB 3.0?
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Of course go figure...Windows computers still have a VGA port...which has been around since the 1980's!
For many years I avoided looking at Macs because I wanted a PC that was easily upgradeable. What a dumb idea. Many years and many PC's later, I think I actually upgraded one of them. I usually ended up just buying a new one. Either Intel would change the cpu socket, or you couldn't use the new style RAM in your mobo, or slots changed, or the video cards changed. It's pretty much hopeless to plan to just upgrade a pc after 2 or 3 years. In most cases, it was cheaper to just buy a new one, anyways. I wish I'd come to this conclusion several years ago and just picked up a Mac then.

Now I'm all worked up because I really want an iMac, but there is too much chance of Apple announcing a new one in the not too distant future. I don't NEED to have one right this minute, but I WANT it! Patience isn't my strong point. The agony...
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