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Sonicjet 12-06-2010 02:35 PM

eMac G4, should I even think about the 1.25GHz model?
 
I'm planning to buy an G4 mac for a home server/file server/webserver/HTPC.
So, From what I understand the 1.25GHz model of the eMac had Capacitor problems, so I'm looking on Ebay and frankly the 1Ghz models post shipping are ~$80 the the 1.25Ghz models are ~$85 and the 1.42Ghz models are ~100.
Any help?

pigoo3 12-06-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonicjet (Post 1150169)
I'm planning to buy an G4 mac for a home server/file server/webserver/HTPC.
So, From what I understand the 1.25GHz model of the eMac had Capacitor problems, so I'm looking on Ebay and frankly the 1Ghz models post shipping are ~$80 the the 1.25Ghz models are ~$85 and the 1.42Ghz models are ~100.
Any help?

If the price is right...I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a 1.25ghz eMac...assuming that it was working fine when purchased. But the first thing I would do when I got my hands on it would be to open it up to see what the condition the capacitors were in. If they are fine, swollen, or leaking.

I got lucky...and purchased a "low-mileage" 1.25ghz eMac from a local person off Craig's List about 2 months ago for $50 dollars (no shipping).

Many of the eMacs on e-Bay are from academic settings (since eMacs originally were designed as an education market computer...that's what the "e" in eMac stands for (education))....where the seller buys the eMac by the pallet load...then resells them on e-Bay. So many of these eMacs have lots & lots of usage hours on them...which can be hard on the CRT display.

On the positive side...if these e-Bay 1.25ghz eMacs have lots of hours on them (and they're still working)...then maybe these 1.25ghz eMacs don't or won't have a problem with the capacitors...if they've survived this long without a capacitor problem.

Also...if someone has the skill to replace the capacitors (if they have an 1.25ghz eMac with a capacitor problem)...the repair parts needed I believe cost less than $30 dollars.

Lastly...if a 1.42ghz eMac can be purchased for just $15 dollars more than a 1.25ghz eMac...then I would go for the 1,42ghz eMac. Because the 1.42ghz eMac:

- is the fastest eMac ever made
- has better graphics hardware
- has a faster "combo drive" (8x vs. 12x)
- possibly a larger hard drive
- and no issues (AFAIK) with capacitors

Hope this helps,

- Nick

Sonicjet 12-06-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigoo3 (Post 1150177)
If the price is right...I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a 1.25ghz eMac...assuming that it was working fine when purchased. But the first thing I would do when I got my hands on it would be to open it up to see what the condition the capacitors were in. If they are fine, swollen, or leaking.

I got lucky...and purchased a "low-mileage" 1.25ghz eMac from a local person off Craig's List about 2 months ago for $50 dollars (no shipping).

Many of the eMacs on e-Bay are from academic settings (since eMacs originally were designed as an education market computer...that's what the "e" in eMac stands for (education))....where the seller buys the eMac by the pallet load...then resells them on e-Bay. So many of these eMacs have lots & lots of usage hours on them...which can be hard on the CRT display.

On the positive side...if these e-Bay 1.25ghz eMacs have lots of hours on them (and they're still working)...then maybe these 1.25ghz eMacs don't or won't have a problem with the capacitors...if they've survived this long without a capacitor problem.

Also...if someone has the skill to replace the capacitors (if they have an 1.25ghz eMac with a capacitor problem)...the repair parts needed I believe cost less than $30 dollars.

Lastly...if a 1.42ghz eMac can be purchased for just $15 dollars more than a 1.25ghz eMac...then I would go for the 1,42ghz eMac. Because the 1.42ghz eMac:

- is the fastest eMac ever made
- has better graphics hardware
- has a faster "combo drive" (8x vs. 12x)
- possibly a larger hard drive
- and no issues (AFAIK) with capacitors

Hope this helps,

- Nick

I would imagine that replacement of the capacitors would not be that hard (I am skilled in soldering and such) my fear is that bulging caps tend to like going boom, if you know what I mean.

Here is the $99 1.42 emac: APPLE eMAC POWERPC G4 1.42GHZ/512MB/80GB HD/DVDROM/CDRW - eBay (item 160514275750 end time Dec-07-10 11:13:33 PST)

Here is the $85 (With shipping) 1.25: APPLE eMac A1002 G4 1.25Ghz/256MB/40GB/CD 17" d - eBay (item 270672571347 end time Dec-07-10 07:24:02 PST)

pigoo3 12-06-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonicjet (Post 1150183)
I would imagine that replacement of the capacitors would not be that hard (I am skilled in soldering and such) my fear is that bulging caps tend to like going boom, if you know what I mean.

The price is pretty attractive on the 1.25ghz eMac ($75 shipped vs. $125 shipped for the 1.42ghz if you did the "Buy It Now")...but I think that I would go for the 1.42ghz model not only for the positives that I mentioned before...but because the e-Bay seller seems to have put more effort into they're auction (more pictures).

Also...the 1.42ghz emac has twice the hard drive (40 gig vs. 80 gig)...and twice the ram (256meg vs. 512meg)...neither of these is major...since you may want to upgrade them even further. And...the seller of the 1.25ghz eMac mentions that no OS is on the hard drive...so you will been an OS install disk if you don't have one...the 1.42ghz model appears to have an OS (10.4) on the HD.

It also seems that the 1.25ghz e-Bay seller is more of a "high-volume" sort of person...has over 28,000 feedback & calls themselves "hightech-assets". The seller of the 1.42ghz eMac although they have over 2000 feedback...does not look like they are quite as high volume.

Finally...both sellers offer a 30 day warranty. The 1.42ghz warranty is a 30 day DOA warranty vs. a 30 day warranty for the 1.25ghz eMac. The seller of the 1.42ghz eMac also mentions that it's an "off-lease" computer...so it probably has lots of hours on it...it's not just some individuals computer that's been sitting in the closet for the last couple years. I would assume that the 1.25ghz eMac is well used as well.

Hope this helps,

- Nick

Sonicjet 12-06-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigoo3 (Post 1150191)
The price is pretty attractive on the 1.25ghz eMac ($75 shipped vs. $125 shipped for the 1.42ghz if you did the "Buy It Now")...but I think that I would go for the 1.42ghz model not only for the positives that I mentioned before...but because the e-Bay seller seems to have put more effort into they're auction (more pictures).

Also...the 1.42ghz emac has twice the hard drive (40 gig vs. 80 gig)...and twice the ram (256meg vs. 512meg)...neither of these is major...since you may want to upgrade them even further. And...the seller of the 1.25ghz eMac mentions that no OS is on the hard drive...so you will been an OS install disk if you don't have one...the 1.42ghz model appears to have an OS (10.4) on the HD.

It also seems that the 1.25ghz e-Bay seller is more of a "high-volume" sort of person...has over 28,000 feedback & calls themselves "hightech-assets". The seller of the 1.42ghz eMac although they have over 2000 feedback...does not look like they are quite as high volume.

Finally...both sellers offer a 30 day warranty. The 1.42ghz warranty is a 30 day DOA warranty vs. a 30 day warranty for the 1.25ghz eMac. The seller of the 1.42ghz eMac also mentions that it's an "off-lease" computer...so it probably has lots of hours on it...it's not just some individuals computer that's been sitting in the closet for the last couple years. I would assume that the 1.25ghz eMac is well used as well.

Hope this helps,

- Nick

Well, the 1.42 has free shipping, and it works out to $85 to be shipped here on the 1.25, I think I will go for the 1.42 at $100.
Additionally I have a copy of 10.4 server.

harryb2448 12-06-2010 04:04 PM

Good decision. The 1.42 model, whilst being a little faster, did not have the capacitor problems like the 1.25. That warranty is the bees knees. To improve things consider dropping in a Raptor 10,000 RPM hard drive.

pigoo3 12-06-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonicjet (Post 1150201)
Well, the 1.42 has free shipping...

Really? When I open the e-Bay link for the 1.42...it says $25.00 shipping.

- Nick

dtravis7 12-06-2010 05:04 PM

To Echo Nick's comments, I would grab that 1.42Ghz EMac. I have a 1.25Ghz Mini and 1.5Ghz Mini and the later is much nicer and then you also get better Video hardware as Nick pointed out.

If you can solder PC boards, replacing Caps would be no issue at all, but since you can get a 1.42, go for it! Nice little machine.

Sonicjet 12-06-2010 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigoo3 (Post 1150239)
Really? When I open the e-Bay link for the 1.42...it says $25.00 shipping.

- Nick

It also says above that: "Free shipping if you Buy it Now!" and above the warranty info.

pigoo3 12-06-2010 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonicjet (Post 1150244)
It also says above that: "Free shipping if you Buy it Now!" and above the warranty info.

Ok...I see it now (below the title). It's in a smaller "gray" font and I didn't see it when I looked at the auction before. All the better...$100 + free shipping...sounds good!:)

- Nick

Sonicjet 12-06-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigoo3 (Post 1150248)
Ok...I see it now (below the title). It's in a smaller "gray" font and I didn't see it when I looked at the auction before. All the better...$100 + free shipping...sounds good!:)

- Nick

Hey, what do you think is wrong with this G4?
Apple power mac G4 dual gig processor - eBay (item 190477183908 end time Dec-13-10 15:39:50 PST)

dtravis7 12-06-2010 07:15 PM

After reading that carefully, my guess is the power supply is dying. Pulling the AC cord and letting it sit then plugging it back in probably is letting a capacitor discharge and allowing it to power on again.

Remember, the above is just a guess.

Sonicjet 12-06-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtravis7 (Post 1150302)
After reading that carefully, my guess is the power supply is dying. Pulling the AC cord and letting it sit then plugging it back in probably is letting a capacitor discharge and allowing it to power on again.

Remember, the above is just a guess.

Thought so, that seems common on the dual G4s...I guess I'm off to get an eMac :)

pigoo3 12-06-2010 08:22 PM

And if it is the power supply on that G4...the power supplies on the Mirror Drive Door Powermac G4's are quite expensive...even used.

- Nick

Sonicjet 12-06-2010 08:25 PM

And as you may note, that 1.42GHz model links to a ended auction :)


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