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    Hi guys

    So recently my late 2005 G5 has been running slow! i mean even everyday tasks like internet and loading finder i see the god awful rainbow wheel

    I understand its not intel but surely it shouldnt be this slow??

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    Software wise i don't have any large programs its just a clean install with spotify transmission firefox and iLife

    Any help appreciated!

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    Boot from the Install disk (hold the C key on startup). Open Disk Utility > First Aid > Verify Disk. If faults are found, do necessary repairs as much as possible.

    If no hardware faults are found, you can then try Repair Permissions from Disk Utility, but OnyX Titanium's Software • Download does a better job.
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    Everything is fine, i don't know what this could be?

    Anyone?

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    The slowing down may - and I hope I'm wrong - be the logic board failing. Disk Utilities may not be able to detect that.

    With one or two of the "slow" applications running, open Activity Monitor from Utilities and observe where all the processing power is going. Report back.

    An example: using Camino, which is a lightweight browser, my eMac slows down terribly on a website called issuu, which hosts images and flash animation. When loading pages from that site, processor usage climbs to the 90+% level, and everything else slows to a crawl. Eventually the browser gives up and force-quit is required.
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    Okay so with Finder Safari and iTunes open it seems to still have 95% idle, on youtube streaming it dips the lowest to 70% idle with iTunes taking up 5%

    If it is logic board failure it may be time to say goodbye!!

    Could it be bad RAM??

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    Bad RAM should have been picked up by Disk Utilities.

    There's a neat little utility called Memtest OS X that will check the RAM on startup.

    Another utility you might consider Download SMARTReporter for Mac - Hard drive pre-failure warning utility. MacUpdate Mac Software Downloads. As its name implies, it reports on the status of your boot disk on startup.
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    So you think its possibly starting to fail as a pose to software issues?

    Thanks for all your help!

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    What you've described in your initial post suggests hardware issues. If Permissions have been repaired, and the slowing down is still noticeable, then the three most likely suspects are hardware items, from least to worst: RAM, hard drive, logic board.

    In your situation I would have the G5 analysed by your nearest Mac shop. If necessary, invest in another SATA hard drive and transfer as much of your valued material to it a.s.a.p.

    If another HD is required, you needn't buy an external enclosure meantime, but an adaptor kit, like this Amazon.com: Sabrent USB-DSC5 Serial ATA or IDE 2.5-/3.5-Inch to USB 2.0 Cable Converter Adapter with Power Supply: Electronics (or UK equivalent); or this Newer Technology Universal Drive Adapter -... (U2NV2SPATA) at OWC (from the US).

    Alternatively, if the amount of software on the G5 is not great, consider burning it to dvds for transfer to a new HD later. Not an ideal way, because there are always issues with libraries etc. You're better to clone the present drive contents, while they're still accessible, to another drive. SuperDuper or CarbonCopyCloner will do the job.
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    I dont think it is a hardware issue. I think it is either a) Apple playing games or b) a poor build of Safari 5.0.3.

    I have a similar PM G5 and had no issues with slow websites/spinning pizza of death until 5.0.3 came out. Everything runs the same as it used too except internet applications (Safari, and iTunes Store... Mail seems unaffected).

    So either Apple is trying to get me to buy a new mac since mine is 5+ years old (but does everything I need it too... sucks for them, they built such a good box). Or they messes up this build... suppose it could be the new JAVA drop too, but I suspect software.

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    Also check this link:

    Apple - Support - Discussions - Safari 5 with G4, G5 based iMacs and ...

    I just "disabled plug-ins" and reenabled them and the SPOD went away... we will see if if lasts, but maybe a bad plug-in load.

    This wont fix the finder thou...

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    Hmm, How full is your Hard Drive? Mac OS X uses a lot of virtual memory, along with real memory (10 GB is still A LOT) if your Hard Drive is over 90% full, it could explain this slow down. You mentioned software but I just don't see it, it would take a lot to bring that Machine to a crawl, I don't even have a full gig and I very rarely ever have the rainbow wheel.

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    Could also just be the hard drive starting to fail -- I'm quite surprised not to have seen this possibility mentioned up till now. Much more likely than the logic board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacDude121 View Post
    Hmm, How full is your Hard Drive? Mac OS X uses a lot of virtual memory, along with real memory (10 GB is still A LOT) if your Hard Drive is over 90% full, it could explain this slow down. You mentioned software but I just don't see it, it would take a lot to bring that Machine to a crawl, I don't even have a full gig and I very rarely ever have the rainbow wheel.
    203GB available :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris-Mac View Post
    203GB available :S
    Hmm, then that's not the issue.

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