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Hey all, I just got an old Imac the 1998 version. I have a couple of questions. 1. can i use unpropriatary hardware such as Hard Drives?
2. How hard is it to install os 9.2... I am a total Pc/Linux geek but never touched on this side yet so some type of guidence would help greatly thank you...


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First off welcome to the boards!

I'll take a first swing at your questions... But hang around... there are alot of people on this board that can probably help you alot more.

1. Some unpropiatary hardware will work... Some Hardrives (although I don't think there is room in the iMac for more than one), Memory, and any external device that has os 9 drivers.

2. If you have any PC/Linux installing under your belt (almost everyone these days does) than installing a new OS for you on the iMac should be a piece of cake... Especially if there is no important data on the machine and you can just do a fresh install.

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As long as you use hardware that is within specs you can use almost any brand. Check this site for an illustrated take-apart/upgrade guide: http://www.djonmac.com/index.html. As far as the OS goes, the easiest and least painful way is to get a commercial copy of OS 9 and do a clean system install. That will create an OS 9.2 system, disable - but not remove - the old system and preserve any programs etc. When you're satisfied with the new system you can trash the old one.
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thanx you guys im gonna try and put my maxtor 80 inthere for testing sakes and put 0sX on it to see if it works.....
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okay new problem ...

1. i installed the 80gig and now im getting this firmware thingy..
2. if i have the cd in the rom should it start automatically ?...
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You can get the firmware update on Apple's site. Go to the support>download area and search for imac firmware. To start from the CD you have to hold down the C key as the iMac starts up. Remember to create the >8 gig partition on the HD to install the system. (Many sites say that is for OS X only, BUT it is for all systems used for booting.)
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Remember to create the >8 gig partition on the HD to install the system. (Many sites say that is for OS X only, BUT it is for all systems used for booting.)
What he means is iMacs and many other 'older' macs require a partition of LESS than 8 gigabytes to boot from. Remember, when these machines were manufactured 8 gig was a pretty big drive.

Which OSX are you trying to install? I don't think tiger will install b/c it requires built in Firewire. if you install os 9.2.2 first, then you can install Xpostfacto to hack the iMac into running OSX 10.3 and higher. OS X up to at least 10.2 'Jaguar' will work fine on the original iMacs (and maybe panther too).

A great resource for older machines is www.lowendmac.com and www.everymac.com.

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Thanks for the clarification. Just to note that the startup partition has to be the first partition. And if you want to dual boot - 9 and X - both systems have to be in that first partition. Here's one from me: xpostfacto is not needed. The original iMac is compatible through 10.3x as long as there is enough memory and HD space. 10.4 won't install because of no built-in Firewire. There are several forum members who run versions of X on these machines. I have 10.3.9 on my revision D.
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Thanks for the clarification. Just to note that the startup partition has to be the first partition. And if you want to dual boot - 9 and X - both systems have to be in that first partition. Here's one from me: xpostfacto is not needed. The original iMac is compatible through 10.3x as long as there is enough memory and HD space. 10.4 won't install because of no built-in Firewire. There are several forum members who run versions of X on these machines. I have 10.3.9 on my revision D.
This may be stating the obvious.... But when making the new partition, if you plan to use dual boot with OS 9, make sure and use the Mac File System (HFS I think it may be called) and not the Unix files system.

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Which OSX are you trying to install? I don't think tiger will install b/c it requires built in Firewire. if you install os 9.2.2 first, then you can install Xpostfacto to hack the iMac into running OSX 10.3 and higher. OS X up to at least 10.2 'Jaguar' will work fine on the original iMacs (and maybe panther too).
Just to clarify, the iMac doesn't require XPostFacto in order to install any version of OS X up to and including 10.3.9. You can simply run the installer, assuming you've already partitioned the drive properly. The only time you'd need XPostFacto for this machine is if you were trying to install Tiger.

Oops - just noticed that Badger already clarified this.

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okay I have the iso images on my xp machine i burned the image to cd and put in the mac but still nothing i dont have the original keyboard and mouse im using my wireless k/b and usb mouse. the mac hdd is wiped clean nothing on it. now what next?... so clueless..
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