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yeah well I hate bothering people about stuff because I work with computers and know how it feels...

thanks for taking the time...

I tried what you said "afp://" and that kept searching and searching and finally found nothing... (all the while I had a ping window open with a successfull ping to the xp machine)

to answer your question... both ways. From XP I can see something that looks like my "Mac" in the network neighborhood but when you click on it it says I don't have permission to log on. From my "Mac" I can't really see much. I can FTP successfully but that is one file at a time and I need to move a lot of files in different folders.

using smb:// I get the following in the log...

mount_smbfs: negotiate phase failed: syserr = Software caused connection abort
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