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http://www.break.com/index/brave-neighbor-kills-2-robbers-911-call2.html
Just listened to this 911 called of a man going out and shooting dead 2 thieves who were robbing his neighbors. There's definitely strong points from both sides of whether or not this guy's actions were proper, however I think he was wrong.
I don't intend for this to spark a gun control debate. There's been plenty of that. I just brought it up regarding what the man did and the laws involved.
The reason I think the man is wrong is because even before he went outside or the men came in his property, he told the operator "I'm gonna kill 'em" That's murderous intent, plain and simple. Even though he was told many times not to go outside, he did anyway. He even said if he goes outside his life could be in danger and he would defend himself. This to me says not only did the man understand he was safer in his house where he could surveil the movements of the thieves from a safe location, but also that going outside would create a situation for him where he could justify shooting the men. It sounds like he was looking for a reason to shoot them.
I think this guy wanted to kill. I don't think protection was in his mind except as an excuse to kill. The robbers were later found to be unarmed, so there were obviously no visible weapons. He could have simply held them at gunpoint or at the very least shot them in the leg or something to stop them. (easily done for anyone at 15 feet distance, which was later reported to be the distance he shot from the guys) But he didn't do that, or even give them a warning. He just shouted "boom, you're dead" and shot to kill.
People feels good about what this man did, but I think that's only because of who the perpetrators were: two older hispanic men who had been convicted of drug crimes in the past. These people who most of which probably think of themselves a good Christians, but seem to be lacking in forgiveness and chance for redemption. But would they feel the same if they were a couple of teenage boys going through a mischievous phase in their life? Would they feel like it was worth it to wipe out the rest of their lives? He admitted he didn't know the neighbors. What if these men knew the neighbors and were acting at their request. I, for one, have crawled through a friend's window to get something for them and crawled through my own window when I've locked myself out. It's rare, but it's a possibility. We have trained officers who handle these situations and try to preserve life as best as possible and courts to determine those facts: because they don't know all the facts immediately. And nobody deserves to die for robbery. This man seemed to think differently and acted on his feelings. For those who praise this behavior, what would the world be like if we all felt that way?
I think this demonstrates a problem with laws allowing use of deadly force. I am first to say we should be able to defend ourselves and I'm not saying anything against guns, but there is definitely a problem as it leaves the door open for murderous schemes and accidental shootings.
Just listened to this 911 called of a man going out and shooting dead 2 thieves who were robbing his neighbors. There's definitely strong points from both sides of whether or not this guy's actions were proper, however I think he was wrong.
I don't intend for this to spark a gun control debate. There's been plenty of that. I just brought it up regarding what the man did and the laws involved.
The reason I think the man is wrong is because even before he went outside or the men came in his property, he told the operator "I'm gonna kill 'em" That's murderous intent, plain and simple. Even though he was told many times not to go outside, he did anyway. He even said if he goes outside his life could be in danger and he would defend himself. This to me says not only did the man understand he was safer in his house where he could surveil the movements of the thieves from a safe location, but also that going outside would create a situation for him where he could justify shooting the men. It sounds like he was looking for a reason to shoot them.
I think this guy wanted to kill. I don't think protection was in his mind except as an excuse to kill. The robbers were later found to be unarmed, so there were obviously no visible weapons. He could have simply held them at gunpoint or at the very least shot them in the leg or something to stop them. (easily done for anyone at 15 feet distance, which was later reported to be the distance he shot from the guys) But he didn't do that, or even give them a warning. He just shouted "boom, you're dead" and shot to kill.
People feels good about what this man did, but I think that's only because of who the perpetrators were: two older hispanic men who had been convicted of drug crimes in the past. These people who most of which probably think of themselves a good Christians, but seem to be lacking in forgiveness and chance for redemption. But would they feel the same if they were a couple of teenage boys going through a mischievous phase in their life? Would they feel like it was worth it to wipe out the rest of their lives? He admitted he didn't know the neighbors. What if these men knew the neighbors and were acting at their request. I, for one, have crawled through a friend's window to get something for them and crawled through my own window when I've locked myself out. It's rare, but it's a possibility. We have trained officers who handle these situations and try to preserve life as best as possible and courts to determine those facts: because they don't know all the facts immediately. And nobody deserves to die for robbery. This man seemed to think differently and acted on his feelings. For those who praise this behavior, what would the world be like if we all felt that way?
I think this demonstrates a problem with laws allowing use of deadly force. I am first to say we should be able to defend ourselves and I'm not saying anything against guns, but there is definitely a problem as it leaves the door open for murderous schemes and accidental shootings.
