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schweb
03-16-2007, 10:52 PM
Tweaks have been made to the reputation system. Level counts, amount of rep awarded, and rep spread have all been adjusted.

Just a reminder, asking for rep, in a post or in your sig is prohibited by our forum rules.

KoDorSean
03-16-2007, 11:07 PM
Not that its any of my business but may I ask why?

eric
03-16-2007, 11:12 PM
well, it is super annoying.

KoDorSean
03-16-2007, 11:14 PM
well, it is super annoying.

I was refering to the tweaks.

schweb
03-16-2007, 11:16 PM
Because the begging for rep was getting rather annoying and the rep pimping in sigs were also getting annoying.

There were also a few people who were clearly pumping up each others rep points. This needed to be rectified.

All in all, the changes were made to better balance the system

eric
03-16-2007, 11:35 PM
i think you removed something from either this post or the other similar one in the rep system question. can't remember exaclty what it said, but something to the effect of the system being designed to help denote those who really help others within the community.

i definitely have given and recieved rep for things other than just helping. i'm also not sure if i'm one of the people at which you directed the "pumping" comment.
let me offer a counterpoint to only repping for help. as you've probably seen, i'm a huge supporter of, and believer in, the community that makes a place like this thrive. often i'll rep others for insightful comments, or really good jokes, or great web finds. things that are not necessarily simple mac related q+a. but these things do keep a large number of people comming back, and keep them in good spirits while they're here.
it's one thing, along with the tight moderation (which i enjoy) that makes this the place that it is. it makes me proud to be an active member, even more proud to have been a MotM, and it makes me enjoy directing other people here from places like other non-mac related forums and facebook and such.

if a little rep for non-help related material is part of the cost for this community, i'd serioulsy consider this before either smacking wrists or removing the system.

Stretch
03-16-2007, 11:38 PM
Well said Eric.

eric
03-16-2007, 11:40 PM
thank you Stretch.

schweb
03-16-2007, 11:45 PM
Eric, if you actually read my comments throughout the history of the rep system, you'll find I completely agree with you. Rep is meant for both helpful people and building community or the opposite thereof. So before you try to defend a position, be sure to understand the opponent. In this case, you don't have one. ;)

The rep pumpers I was speaking of in particular were specifically trading rep points for the purpose of raising their count. It was in their comments they were leaving to each other. This was not simply awarding rep for good posts, this was purposely using the system to increase rep.

eric
03-16-2007, 11:46 PM
alrighty then. just wanted to be sure.
:)

MacHeadCase
03-16-2007, 11:55 PM
I'm with eric on that too. I rep for help, things that I didn't know that I learned from someone but also for other stuff like funny jokes or cool posts.

cwa107
03-16-2007, 11:57 PM
I'm with eric on that too. I rep for help, things that I didn't know that I learned from someone but also for other stuff like funny jokes or cool posts.

Me too - for a minute there, I thought I was doing something wrong. Glad to hear we're ALL on the same page.

Still think the rep system is absolutely outstanding and distinctive. I've still yet to see another forum that has something similar - and can think of more than a few off the top of my head that could use it.

Netty4mac
03-16-2007, 11:59 PM
I think the rep system works really well here. I've seen another forum where the whole rep system was eliminated because of abuse. In that forum a brand new member's rep could go sky high their first day.

dtravis7
03-17-2007, 12:02 AM
Because the begging for rep was getting rather annoying and the rep pimping in sigs were also getting annoying.

There were also a few people who were clearly pumping up each others rep points. This needed to be rectified.

All in all, the changes were made to better balance the system

Just to make it clear for all, is it against the forum rules to say in your sig to use the Rep system? I know begging, asking for, Etc is against the rules and just plain wrong. Just want to be sure on that one point since many have that in their sigs.

eric
03-17-2007, 12:04 AM
good point for clarification dtravis.

i'm guessing my current one would be acceptable too. ;)

schweb
03-17-2007, 12:06 AM
Just to make it clear for all, is it against the forum rules to say in your sig to use the Rep system? I know begging, asking for, Etc is against the rules and just plain wrong. Just want to be sure on that one point since many have that in their sigs.

While it could be argued that it's borderline, we've always allowed a small text blurb that says something like "Use the rep system" or "remember the rep system".

What's been happening lately are much more blatant pleas for people to give rep points.

schweb
03-17-2007, 12:09 AM
good point for clarification dtravis.

i'm guessing my current one would be acceptable too. ;)

Yes, subtlety is the key when pushing the rep system. :)

dtravis7
03-17-2007, 12:17 AM
While it could be argued that it's borderline, we've always allowed a small text blurb that says something like "Use the rep system" or "remember the rep system".

What's been happening lately are much more blatant pleas for people to give rep points.

Cool. At one point people did not even know of the system and a lot were not using it so the reminders in the sigs, but lately it's really being well used. Thanks for the clarification!

narf1899
03-17-2007, 08:27 AM
ahh...seems like such a silly thing to be worrying about...a few green dots? but then again, i know how good it feels when u get it :)

schweb
03-17-2007, 09:00 AM
Exactly.

In order to keep the rep system happy, it needs to grow organically. People artificially using it or becoming obsessed with it will ruin the entire system.

skye
03-17-2007, 01:39 PM
agreed.

i hope that i am not guilty of rep pumping. unfortunately most of my rep comes from anything goes and not doing much help at all, mostly just posting funny things.

i also have been known to give rep to those who rep me in a form of thanks, but not as a blatant attempt to just pump their reps. i hope that i have not been doing something even remotely negative.

i apologize if i have, feel free to remove any unwarranted rep from me schweb and friends.

schweb
03-17-2007, 01:48 PM
In general, rep shouldn't be given as "thanks" for someone giving you rep, that's not the intent of the system.

Carol247
03-17-2007, 08:43 PM
Thanks Schweb and other mods! This forum rocks and tweaks like this make it so. Reps to the mods for keeping an honest and fun site here at Mac-Forums!