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schweb
06-12-2006, 11:34 PM
Just a reminder that Mac-Forums has a User Reputation System (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14766). If you find a post helpful be sure to give the poster positive reputation points and leave them a comment.

If you find a post misleading, wrong, etc feel free to give negative reputation points and be sure to let them know why.

The more we all use the system the better it will become so please start using it often!

D3v1L80Y
06-12-2006, 11:37 PM
And remember, you don't even have to post in that particular thread to leave the rep points. I leave rep points in threads for people, and I never bother to post in that thread.
Usually, because the person I am leaving the feedback for has already done a good job of answering so I don't really need to repeat what was already said.

coach_z
06-13-2006, 08:28 PM
i think i won, i cant even give out any more reputation today!

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

iWhat
06-13-2006, 09:03 PM
i think i won, i cant even give out any more reputation today!

Ha, that's never happened to me. Thanks for using the rep system coach_z.

schweb
06-13-2006, 09:20 PM
Ha, that's never happened to me. Thanks for using the rep system coach_z.
You have to give out rep points to get that message iWhat ;)

iWhat
06-13-2006, 09:28 PM
Err, I always stop handing out rep right before the message. Yeah.

dtravis7
06-13-2006, 11:09 PM
I had that message one time a few months ago.

coach_z
06-13-2006, 11:21 PM
holy carp, and i got my second green mark today!
-chris

Graphite
06-13-2006, 11:34 PM
yeah your welcome :)

coltssaturday
06-13-2006, 11:44 PM
yeah i gave one to rman.

PowerBookG4
06-13-2006, 11:56 PM
And remember, you don't even have to post in that particular thread to leave the rep points. I leave rep points in threads for people, and I never bother to post in that thread.
Usually, because the person I am leaving the feedback for has already done a good job of answering so I don't really need to repeat what was already said.

Its what I do if I feel somebody truly deserves the rep points.

Graphite
06-22-2006, 01:25 PM
We have had about 240 (lil more) new members since the last post in here.

But also a reminder to all posters on the forum. If a post bothers you, a negative reputation point can sometimes hit harder than a negative post (if its that bad also report it to a moderator). If you come across a post that you really liked or thought was funny, rate it positively, give them a positive reputation point.

Reputation points are like smiles, if you smile at someone, eventually you will get the smile back. So do not be afraid that someone is going to get more reputation than you, besides if your not using the reputation system neither will anyone else and you will get passed anyway (many people only give reputation to people who also use the rep system). Eventually it will all balance out.

We have a lot of members and although the system right now is pretty subjective, maybe one day it could be a little more objective and less subjective!

Bottom line? Listen to the mac-forums podcast (http://www.graphate.com/home.html) and use the reputation system.

•example of a positive reputation message "great post! very helpful! -username" (its ok to let someone know you left the message)

•example of a negative reputation message "inappropriate!" (probably not wise to leave your name)

here is a picture of the reputation system: its the (?X) box

coach_z
06-22-2006, 04:21 PM
•example of a positive reputation message "great post! very helpful! -username" (its ok to let someone know you left the message)

•example of a negative reputation message "inappropriate!" (probably not wise to leave your name)


lol, never leave your name when completely bashing someone via user rep system.

the user rep system is really great, i think i got 45 points since schweb originally posted this thread.
-chris

D3v1L80Y
06-22-2006, 04:31 PM
lol, never leave your name when completely bashing someone via user rep system.

Meh, I have before :black:

alucard
06-22-2006, 04:42 PM
To view comments left by others (if they left any) do you just click the icon under your username? I don't see anything in the profile area.

dtravis7
06-22-2006, 04:44 PM
It should be in your profile.

D3v1L80Y
06-22-2006, 04:48 PM
It should be in your profile.
Yeah, it should show up on your profile screen:

Graphite
06-22-2006, 04:54 PM
USERCP (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/usercp.php) there is where you will beable to see the rep. If you have no reputation it will just say "10" reputation points.

Also if you have less than I believe 100 posts the reputation you give is "grey" neutral doesn't help or hurt. You can still gain reputation though.

alucard
06-22-2006, 04:58 PM
Yeah, it should show up on your profile screen:

Found it. Thank you. :)

macEfan
06-24-2006, 01:56 PM
Is it ok to leave reputation for someone after a good speedy maketplace transaction? Or should we only leave it for for good posts/helpful posts, etc...?

D3v1L80Y
06-24-2006, 02:02 PM
Is it ok to leave reputation for someone after a good speedy maketplace transaction? Or should we only leave it for for good posts/helpful posts, etc...?
Why wouldn't it be? Seems like that would be an excellent reason to leave rep points to me!
:black:

coltssaturday
06-24-2006, 02:15 PM
I get this message.


You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

D3v1L80Y
06-24-2006, 02:16 PM
I get this message.
Yeah, I get that often myself. Not a bad thing if you ask me. :black:
It just shows that you are using the system to its fullest.
:)

coltssaturday
06-24-2006, 02:31 PM
Yeah, I get that often myself. Not a bad thing if you ask me. :black:
It just shows that you are using the system to its fullest.
:)

Than why don't we just get rid of the post count and start putting the number of points you have from the User Reputation System.

schweb
06-24-2006, 02:35 PM
Than why don't we just get rid of the post count and start putting the number of points you have from the User Reputation System.
Don't even go there. You obviously have not read throught the history of that one ;)

coltssaturday
06-24-2006, 02:36 PM
Don't even go there. You obviously have not read throught the history of that one ;)

I did, and it said that the mods decided to keep the post count but i thought that we could give it a shot again. ;)

Graphite
06-25-2006, 01:12 AM
ha we did get rid of post count coltssaturday... back when threads were popping up bragging about their post counts like "OMG ROXORZ I GOTZ 2000posts IN 2 MONTHS!" and people thinking they should be made mod because they have a high post count. So we developed the reputation system... after people calmed down and grew up we brought the post count back (took a few months).

Aptmunich
06-25-2006, 03:14 AM
Seemed to work quite nicely...

...on a side note:

OMG, K1XK477 I've got 3 bullet-holes!

D3v1L80Y
06-25-2006, 04:10 AM
Seemed to work quite nicely...

...on a side note:

OMG, K1XK477 I've got 3 bullet-holes!
r0x0rZ11111111
Someone make that guy a |\/|øD3r4+0R now!!

:p:black:

iWonder
06-25-2006, 04:28 AM
OMG + |-| /-\ + 5 15 1337!
5 |_| 9 3 |2 ƒ /-\ /\/ + /-\ 5 + | ( !!!!!!!!!

[omg that is elite
super fantastic!!!!!!!!!]

Aptmunich
06-25-2006, 06:31 AM
Now that's just going too far...

coltssaturday
06-25-2006, 01:42 PM
ha we did get rid of post count coltssaturday... back when threads were popping up bragging about their post counts like "OMG ROXORZ I GOTZ 2000posts IN 2 MONTHS!" and people thinking they should be made mod because they have a high post count. So we developed the reputation system... after people calmed down and grew up we brought the post count back (took a few months).

Alright, Graph thanks for the history and I will get a 100% on my history test. LOL!! :biohazard

Graphite
06-26-2006, 02:02 AM
A good question to ask yourself everyday is... "did I max out my reputation button today?"

the answer should be... "golly self! of course I did, I am such a productive member of mac-forums" then pat yourself on the back!

::snicker snicker::

surfwax95
06-26-2006, 02:06 AM
Your "::snicker snicker::" just earned you a reputation point.

coltssaturday
06-26-2006, 09:21 AM
A good question to ask yourself everyday is... "did I max out my reputation button today?"

the answer should be... "golly self! of course I did, I am such a productive member of mac-forums" then pat yourself on the back!

::snicker snicker::

.....lol

coach_z
06-28-2006, 01:40 PM
A good question to ask yourself everyday is... "did I max out my reputation button today?"

the answer should be... "golly self! of course I did, I am such a productive member of mac-forums" then pat yourself on the back!

::snicker snicker::

it was 1230 in the afternoon when i get this: You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

****son, ive only been away for 3 hours and i cant even give out anymore rep!!....sorry graphite, it was going to go to you

-chris

D3v1L80Y
06-28-2006, 01:44 PM
Coach, you sure do like to dole out the rep now don't ya?
:black:

coltssaturday
06-28-2006, 02:23 PM
it was 1230 in the afternoon when i get this: You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

****son, ive only been away for 3 hours and i cant even give out anymore rep!!....sorry graphite, it was going to go to you

-chris

that same thing happened to me when i tried to give it to you and D3v1L80Y.

I only used for 3 people and it gave me the same message.

Graphite
06-28-2006, 02:32 PM
Maybe we will raise the maximum. The limit is right now at I believe 20.

Colts you must have used 17 with in 24 hours and then finished off the last three, it shouldn't be long for you.

Its wonderful you guys are using the system! Maybe after all these year it will finally get popular!

coltssaturday
06-28-2006, 02:45 PM
Maybe we will raise the maximum. The limit is right now at I believe 20.

Colts you must have used 17 with in 24 hours and then finished off the last three, it shouldn't be long for you.

Its wonderful you guys are using the system! Maybe after all these year it will finally get popular!

It is popular Graph. I think you need to raise the maximum to 30 and everybody needs to use it. :biohazard

Graphite
06-28-2006, 02:59 PM
Well its set lower for a reason, we will talk about it.

D3v1L80Y
06-28-2006, 03:03 PM
Dang, I ran out of rep to give today.
:black: But, I can wait til tomorrow

coltssaturday
06-28-2006, 03:04 PM
Well its set lower for a reason, we will talk about it.

Alright. :black: Whenever you have time. LOL!! :yinyang:

macEfan
06-28-2006, 05:40 PM
yeah, the rep system is finally beginning to come into action! I think we could make it even more popular if we have like a system that sends PM's to new users so that they are aware of the cool system!
And of course, links in your sig saying use the rep system also helps...


BTW how many points do you need to get from one green dot to two?

coltssaturday
06-28-2006, 05:41 PM
yeah, the rep system is finally beginning to come into action! I think we could make it even more popular if we have like a system that sends PM's to new users so that they are aware of the cool system!
And of course, links in your sig saying use the rep system also helps...


BTW how many points do you need to get from one green dot to two?

i think if you get a hundren points then you get the 2nd dot.

Graphite
06-28-2006, 05:42 PM
100 points.

Maybe a PM or email when you receive reputation, but I am not even sure if that is an option.

Thanks for the support keep using the system!

macEfan
06-28-2006, 05:45 PM
ok, thanks for letting me know..I'll be sure to make more use of the system now. Now thats what I like about Mac-Forums.. we're still smaller than other sites, so we can use a system like this and it won't get as abused!

coltssaturday
06-28-2006, 05:46 PM
I added the system reminder to my sig.

Graphite
06-28-2006, 05:48 PM
Were not that small :) we just remove all the inactive user names every year. Thats over 2000 user names every year.

macEfan
06-28-2006, 05:50 PM
yeah, thats true... i didn't think about that. It does seem like we are getting more new users these days than we used to. That's a good sign.

coltssaturday, nice sig, but its a little large... maybe make everything a tad smaller and it will look better...

coltssaturday
06-28-2006, 05:51 PM
yeah, thats true... i didn't think about that. It does seem like we are getting more new users these days than we used to. That's a good sign.

coltssaturday, nice sig, but its a little large... maybe make everything a tad smaller and it will look better...

hope now it looks better

coltssaturday
06-28-2006, 06:47 PM
Well its set lower for a reason, we will talk about it.

Did graph find time yet? lol

alucard
06-28-2006, 07:35 PM
yeah, the rep system is finally beginning to come into action! I think we could make it even more popular if we have like a system that sends PM's to new users so that they are aware of the cool system!
And of course, links in your sig saying use the rep system also helps...


BTW how many points do you need to get from one green dot to two?


I agree. I put it in my sig the other day :)

coltssaturday
06-29-2006, 12:12 PM
Watch one day, everybody is going to have one! LOL!! :spook:

schweb
06-29-2006, 01:44 PM
The reputation limit is there to prevent abuse of the system. While we can look at possibly raising it slightly, we need to balance that with the potential for abuse.

As for an e-mail letting new users know about the system, they get that when they join MF. They receive a welcome e-mail pointing them to several important features and threads. However, as you can probably tell from the massive amount of posts in the wrong places, crossposting, etc that they tend not to read.

It gets worse in the summer when the kids are out of school. ;)

coltssaturday
06-29-2006, 02:08 PM
The reputation limit is there to prevent abuse of the system. While we can look at possibly raising it slightly, we need to balance that with the potential for abuse.

As for an e-mail letting new users know about the system, they get that when they join MF. They receive a welcome e-mail pointing them to several important features and threads. However, as you can probably tell from the massive amount of posts in the wrong places, crossposting, etc that they tend not to read.

It gets worse in the summer when the kids are out of school. ;)

Hey Schweb, did you increase the minimum reputations a person could give out in 24 hours. :black:

schweb
06-29-2006, 06:45 PM
Hey Schweb, did you increase the minimum reputations a person could give out in 24 hours. :black:
No, and the more you ask and are annoying about it, the less likely I am to do it.

You've made your suggestion and it's been noted. Repeating it will not get it to you any faster. ;)

BTW, please do something about your sig, it's too large.

coltssaturday
06-29-2006, 07:09 PM
No, and the more you ask and are annoying about it, the less likely I am to do it.

You've made your suggestion and it's been noted. Repeating it will not get it to you any faster. ;)

BTW, please do something about your sig, it's too large.

Alright, I'll fix my signature. :biohazard

dtravis7
06-29-2006, 07:16 PM
Alright, I'll fix my signature. :biohazard

I think what might work is take out the i love graphite graphic and put the Search right at the top middle and the rep reminder right under it.

coltssaturday
06-29-2006, 09:42 PM
I think what might work is take out the i love graphite graphic and put the Search right at the top middle and the rep reminder right under it.

Now its fixed. :black:

macEfan
06-30-2006, 10:01 PM
one more reputation question:

is there a way you can leave a nutral reputation mark, or only positive or netigive?
I think a nutral rep would be useful for people who make small errors, like double posting, etc...

Graphite
07-06-2006, 01:08 PM
Just incase you were wondering. Here is a break down of the reputation system.
Today 07_06_06: (in order from highest Reputation to lowest)
(ex-MotMs in Red)

•Two (2) members with four (4) green dots:
D3v1L80Y (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=2960):366
coach_z (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=5513):316

•Four (4) members with three (3) green dots:
dtravis7 (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=8287):280
Aptmunich (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=3850):269
Fallooza (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=10954):261
technologist (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=4134):220

•Eleven (11) members with two (2) green dots:
surfwax95 (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=12561):196
sarahsboy18 (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=8992):181
Kokopelli (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=9646)
Avalon (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=5184):164
PowerBookG4 (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=8394):158
rs2sensen (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=10090):148
deus_ex_machina (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=5726)
mynameis (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=6607)
Macman (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=7132)
lil (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=12474):105
Benjamindaines (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=8386):103

•5 Members who will have two (2) dots soon based on their rate:
baggss (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=6762):88
kaidomac (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=15110):83
Badger (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=3637):79
fearlessfreap24 (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=9274):77
macAttack (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=10604):69.

Great work everyone!

•kaidomac (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=15110) has been here for just under 7 months and already has 83 reputation points!

•The highest reputation achieved by non-moderator is 366 by D3v1L80Y (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=2960), the lowest is -54 by spaeschke (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=12335).

•There are 5 active members with under 0 reputation. You may recognize:caveatipss (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=15088): -25.

•There is one member with 0 reputation: Super_boy22 (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/member.php?u=18506)

•Every MotM you have chosen since the beginning has at least two (2) reputation bars right now.

This may help you place yourself
•55~ Non-Mod members have over 36 reputation points.
•72~ Non-Mod members have over 25 reputation points.
•102~ Non-Mod members have over 21 reputation points.
•132~ Non-Mod members have over 17 reputation points.
•270 members have over 13 reputation points.
•482 members have over 11 reputation points
We have a fairly normal distribution of reputation points at Mac-Forums.

•Posting helps, but posting does not indicate a significant statistical increase in reputation points per post. Many members with 100 posts or less have some of the highest single bar reputation levels. Many members in the top 30 have under 1100 posts (top 30 includes mods).

•Mac-Forums.com has 8,511 members, it looks like many of you are using it!

•Max out your reputation system on good and bad posts daily. We need an active system to keep it accurate!

surfwax95
07-06-2006, 01:10 PM
Woo!

Having too much time on your hands at work isn't necessarily a bad thing... ;)

macEfan
07-06-2006, 01:14 PM
wow, interesting statistics graphite! Good job Coach_Z! You went from 2 dots to 4 in a couple of months!

coltssaturday
07-06-2006, 01:31 PM
the results of maxing out on your User reputation system everyday. thats really great for coach_z.

Graphite
07-06-2006, 07:38 PM
Glad you guys like it.
Here (http://www.graphate.com/startpage/rep.html) is a version that I will try and keep updated as often as someone reminds me.

menace3054
07-06-2006, 08:36 PM
i spent like the better half of a day helping people, most of them new, who dont know about this system and therefore leave no feedback :( frustrating

Graphite
07-06-2006, 09:37 PM
Well I am glad you are helping people! And it happens where people don't know about the rep system and so don't leave rep points, but it is possible for people who noticed your post to still grant you reputation points for 'helping that guy'

also if you leave feedback and leave your name, you are more likely to get feedback from the person you left it for... and that will also get them using it and spider web to eventually incorporate nearly everyone

technologist
07-06-2006, 09:59 PM
[...]
Says the man with six green dots. :mac:


i spent like the better half of a day helping people, most of them new, who dont know about this system and therefore leave no feedback :( frustrating
Happens. But many members do (and should!) try to give points to helpful or insightful answers, even when they themselves aren't the ones asking the questions.

Anyway, now, so how do we trade them in for prizes? :mac:

Graphite
07-06-2006, 10:03 PM
Says the man with six green dots. :mac:


Happens. But many members do (and should!) try to give points to helpful or insightful answers, even when they themselves aren't the ones asking the questions.

Anyway, now, so how do we trade them in for prizes? :mac:

Don't worry I am sure we will develop something that uses the reputation system as a base some day :biohazard I have a few ideas.

But till then you can just get nominated for MotM again in a few months

PowerBookG4
07-06-2006, 10:12 PM
I like the reputation system, but I am gaining them at a really slow rate. I guess I have not been as helpful as I thought I have been in the laste few months.. I guess I can live with that. I will just have to try harder.

dtravis7
07-06-2006, 10:19 PM
PBG4, I have found you to be very helpfull. You have not been around as much the last 2 months though, but you are always very helpfull.

Graphite
07-06-2006, 10:19 PM
Well thats the idea behind that board. Hopefully people will see that and strive to make it on the Graphate.com Top 22 list, the only way of doing that is posting helpful things and using the system yourself! (you could always strive for the much more difficult title of lowest reputation, difficult because you have to post and bother people just enough and still remain unbanned.)

PowerBookG4
07-06-2006, 10:29 PM
PBG4, I have found you to be very helpfull. You have not been around as much the last 2 months though, but you are always very helpfull.

Yeah who knew that I could possibly get that much work. I was always working all the time.. I got up early ot work, I went to bed late because I was working.. there was so much school work, and then jobs that I had.. It was crazy! But I am back now :) and all should be good from this point on, because high school is over and I am now in college. I know that college is hard, but its more of an environment I am good at.

PowerBookG4
07-06-2006, 10:30 PM
Well thats the idea behind that board. Hopefully people will see that and strive to make it on the Graphate.com Top 22 list, the only way of doing that is posting helpful things and using the system yourself! (you could always strive for the much more difficult title of lowest reputation, difficult because you have to post and bother people just enough and still remain unbanned.)

Thanks for the user reps graphite.. my favorite mod.

menace3054
07-07-2006, 12:29 AM
thanks graph, i appreciate your feedback, its too bad that everyonce in a while theres someone who has to be rude, almost makes it not worth it..
http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3877&stc=1

i wish i knew who said "begging is not becomming" so that i could return the favor, although i have a good feeling since one member on the forum seems to always have a rude edge to him

Graphite
07-07-2006, 12:43 AM
menace3054, negative reputation points are part of the game, your entitled to give negative reputation to people also, believe me I have gotten way more negative reputation than any of you :D

Also, it would take around 14 negative reputation points from the average member to cancel out one of my positive reputation points, so I wouldn't worry about it.

menace3054
07-07-2006, 12:45 AM
i know it just like hurts to see that, oh well, just wanted to *vent*, thanks again dude, have a good night

coltssaturday
07-07-2006, 01:48 PM
i know it just like hurts to see that, oh well, just wanted to *vent*, thanks again dude, have a good night

yes as graph said its part of the game like when it was sarahboys18 birthday and i said happy birthday to him somebody gave me 2 negative ones for no reason. but its part of the system i guess.

PowerBookG4
07-07-2006, 02:25 PM
all part of the game as it has been said. I have on many occasions recieved negative points for nothing that was wrong or offensive, I just lived with it, and then made up the points by continuing to help people.

Graphite
07-10-2006, 09:55 PM
Average increase of 25 reputation points per memeber on
the M-F top 22 (http://www.graphate.com/startpage/rep.html). So far no signs of abuse, since the list started,
Good.. no bannings.

PowerBookG4
07-10-2006, 10:10 PM
We like it when people don't get banned.

alucard
07-10-2006, 10:23 PM
Also, it would take around 14 negative reputation points from the average member to cancel out one of my positive reputation points, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Then someone must hate me. I had 25 this morning. checked tonight and i got 24. oh well, like you said. thats the way it goes.

D3v1L80Y
07-10-2006, 10:26 PM
Then someone must hate me. I had 25 this morning. checked tonight and i got 24. oh well, like you said. thats the way it goes.
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. I get negative rep just like everyone else does.:)

coach_z
07-18-2006, 02:06 PM
even i get negative rep!!! usually because i can be a jerk though. some people will give you negative rep because they dont like your advice (which is dumb, but it happens) other times it may be a mistake.

im going to start giving devilboy negative rep so it is easier for me to catch up with him in the "unofficial user rep point race" lol j/k
-chris

Graphite
07-18-2006, 02:54 PM
Incase some of you missed it. Sending profanity in a reputation message is unacceptable. It is not a place to attack an individual. If you would like to report someone for a derogatory reputation message please message a moderator! We will deal with them.

coach_z
07-18-2006, 03:02 PM
uh oh,j someone is in trouble.....i hope its not me!!!

i am nearing another dot...thats a lot of rep in the past few weeks!
-chris

D3v1L80Y
07-18-2006, 03:04 PM
I'll get my next dot before you, coach

:p :black:

Unless of course you cheat and give me neg rep for no reason...hehe.

coach_z
07-18-2006, 03:06 PM
im at 487 right now...all i need is one graph rep point or like a few other normal people

baggss
07-18-2006, 03:27 PM
What are the levels for dots? I.E 100 points = 2 dots , what are the rest? I know this is probably in this thread somewhere, so I'll just give myself negative rep now for not reading through all 6 pages first...

Fallooza
07-18-2006, 03:36 PM
What are the levels for dots? I.E 100 points = 2 dots , what are the rest? I know this is probably in this thread somewhere, so I'll just give myself negative rep now for not reading through all 6 pages first...
200=3
300=4...

baggss
07-18-2006, 03:40 PM
Thanks Fallooza. Once again the easy answer was the right one....

Graphite
07-18-2006, 04:10 PM
Well..
1 - 0
2 - 100
3 - 200
4 - 300
5 - 400
6 - 500
7 - 700

macEfan
07-18-2006, 04:52 PM
ah, thats good to know. What is the max number of dots you can get? I bet D3v1L80Y and Coach_Z are catching up quite fast....

what's this mean?

"Your reputation on this post is Even."?

Does that just mean that you haven't been gotten any rep for a certain thread?

baggss
07-18-2006, 05:40 PM
While I think about it, what are all the sayings that go with the dots? You know, when you move the mouse over the dots and the little window comes up with the saying....

macEfan
07-18-2006, 05:44 PM
"user" is an unkown at this point (1 dot)
"user" is on a distunguished road (1 dot)
"user" will become famous soon enough (1 dot)
"user" has a spectacular arura about (1 dot)
"user" is a jewel in the rough (2 dots)
"user" is just really nice ( 3 dots)
"user" is a glorious beakon of light ( 4 dots)
"user" is a name known to all ( 5 dots)
"user" is a spended one to behold ( 6 dots)
"user" has much to be proud of (7 dots)

enjoy! I always like looking at people's ranks!

baggss
07-18-2006, 05:54 PM
ok, and the final question, what points levels do those go with?

Thanks!

macEfan
07-18-2006, 06:01 PM
10 or less pointts : "user" is an unkown at this point (1 dot)
10-24 points :"user" is on a distunguished road (1 dot)
25-49 points :"user" will become famous soon enough (1 dot)
50-99 points "user" has a spectacular arura about (1 dot)
100 points "user" is a jewel in the rough (2 dots)
200 points "user" is just really nice ( 3 dots)
300 points"user" is a glorious beakon of light ( 4 dots)
400 points "user" is a name known to all ( 5 dots)
500 points "user" is a spended one to behold ( 6 dots)
600 +"user" has much to be proud of (7 dots)

graphite already tols us the points earlier in this thread..

well here you go, enjoy!

baggss
07-18-2006, 06:10 PM
Dude, YOU ROCK! Thanks....

schweb
07-18-2006, 06:19 PM
Well..
1 - 0
2 - 100
3 - 200
4 - 300
5 - 400
6 - 500
7 - 700
That's not even completely correct. The exact formula will always remain a secret. ;)

Rob
07-18-2006, 06:49 PM
omg secret!

Yay, I have 50-99 points! Anyway to check how many I have?

baggss
07-18-2006, 06:50 PM
Click Profile at the top of the page or just click your own user rep button on your post.

coltssaturday
07-18-2006, 06:51 PM
omg secret!

Yay, I have 50-99 points! Anyway to check how many I have?

EDIT: Baggss beat me to it! But still its here.


Are you asking how to find out how many points you have.

in the profile section above the comment is the total points you have.

Graphite
07-19-2006, 12:13 AM
That's not even completely correct. The exact formula will always remain a secret. ;)

but right now that is how it worked out.

avcabob
07-19-2006, 01:45 AM
I got a negative "slow down on the game" on two...I think someone is jealous.

PowerBookG4
07-19-2006, 01:54 AM
lol.. what a random thing to give a negative point about.

coach_z
07-19-2006, 01:55 AM
thats the type of thing i would give positive rep with a negaative comment......

anyway, everyones gotta stop complaining about neg. rep. it is fact of life and we all get it
-chris

avcabob
07-19-2006, 02:01 AM
I just picture someone sitting at their computer trying to think of the next word and when they finally do, someone else already put it up, along with like 5 other words and they are getting all frustrated so they start giving out neg. rep. points, and this picture makes me laugh.

puaerotch
07-19-2006, 02:10 AM
anyway, everyones gotta stop complaining about neg. rep. it is fact of life and we all get it
-chris
i understand, i just found it amusing that they told me to ease up and i haven't posted in that thread in a long time.


I just picture someone sitting at their computer trying to think of the next word and when they finally do, someone else already put it up, along with like 5 other words and they are getting all frustrated so they start giving out neg. rep. points, and this picture makes me laugh.
that does create a funny picture

Graphite
07-19-2006, 02:22 AM
Good, lets not focus too hard on the reps :) its still not that big of a deal...

also, the hardcopy (http://www.graphate.com/startpage/rep.html) has been updated

coach_z
07-19-2006, 02:33 AM
it is a big deal because i want to be beating devilboy in the unofficial user rep race
-chris

schweb
07-19-2006, 07:09 AM
This is seriously starting to remind me of the "I've got a high post count, make me a mod".

coach_z
07-19-2006, 09:18 AM
This is seriously starting to remind me of the "I've got a high post count, make me a mod".

im just joking around saying that and whatnot. im using the system because i like the forums and you mods say to use it. the only real way to get your user rep up so high so fast is to offer a lot of good advice which is beneficial to the forums so i dont really see it as a bad thing...i do have a lot of posts though, and rep...doesnt mean im seeking to become a mod
-chris

Graphite
07-19-2006, 01:41 PM
I guess as long as people are using the rep system appropriately... writing good helpful posts in hopes of getting reputation can't be that big of a deal... Just don't start flipping out when you don't get reputation or you get negative reputation for no reason.

PowerBookG4
07-21-2006, 09:23 PM
I guess as long as people are using the rep system appropriately... writing good helpful posts in hopes of getting reputation can't be that big of a deal... Just don't start flipping out when you don't get reputation or you get negative reputation for no reason.

I agree, I just help to help. I don't really pay attention to my post count or rep points, although I know I have 3 dots, I don't know how many points I have because I simply don't care enough to look. I just try to help people and if I get reputation for it, then thats cool. I look every once in a while, but have not looked in a while. With Schweb's comment above, I don't think people think of post count and user reps as a way to become a moderator. If you guys see fit for somebody to become a moderator, when one leaves or there is increased traffic to the forums, they will do so by other means then post count or rep points..

Graphite
07-22-2006, 12:50 AM
Oh schweb was talking about a specific incident which caused us to remove the post count for a few months.. and how people commenting on their reputation level reminded him of the time when people were advertising their post counts "omg I got 2000+ posts in ___ months! ROXORZ!" hint search: "2000+ posts".

PowerBookG4
07-22-2006, 06:12 AM
oh lol, my bad.. still, I think user reputation system is working out quite well.

macAttack
07-22-2006, 12:25 PM
hey guys...i got one dot in like over a year. beat that...
i think this qualifies for me and macman to be a mod.

baggss
07-22-2006, 02:29 PM
Good, lets not focus too hard on the reps :) its still not that big of a deal...

also, the hardcopy (http://www.graphate.com/startpage/rep.html) has been updated

Exactly! I mean no matter what sort of a social group you join, be it the Kiwanas Club, the Communist Party, or a computer forum, everyone wants/desires some sort of recognition for their contributions. That recognition, in cases like this, is a high post count or a good rep. Some will always pay more attention to it than others, but keeping it under control is a good thing.

baggss
07-28-2006, 06:59 PM
What does a Gray dot, with no Rep points change, mean? Is that Neutral rep or something else?

PowerBookG4
07-28-2006, 07:31 PM
IT is a neutral rep because the person who gave it to you has not been around long enough for their points to count.

baggss
07-28-2006, 07:42 PM
Ok, thanks....

deus_ex_machina
07-28-2006, 09:56 PM
Yeah I got a couple of those - rep is better than no rep haha ;)

Graphite
07-31-2006, 07:38 PM
new user rep list (http://www.graphate.com/startpage/rep.html):07_31_06 is released.

macEfan
08-01-2006, 12:16 AM
yay I'm finally on the list!

It seems like people are finally beginning to use the rep system, and its showing! I've seen many fairly new members with over 50 rep ponts, and a few newer members with two green dots. Good job everyone! Keep up the good work!

coltssaturday
08-01-2006, 12:37 AM
yep its great that people are using it. its a great system.

coach_z
08-01-2006, 12:47 AM
i havent done so well in the past few weeks, i have been extremely busy and peoples posts have been way too long for me to bother to read them
-chris

macEfan
08-01-2006, 12:55 AM
new user rep list (http://www.graphate.com/startpage/rep.html):07_31_06 is released.

just a minor note:
when you click on yogi's name, the link transfers to menace3054's profile.. little link error, but if you don't feel like fixing, its not that big of deal. :p

baggss
08-05-2006, 05:18 PM
Another question. This one about Rep Points. When you give rep, you give a certain amount of points. The more good rep you have, the more points the rep you give is worth. Are we mere mortal members allowed to know what the scale of rep points to given rep is?

Fallooza
08-05-2006, 05:23 PM
Another question. This one about Rep Points. When you give rep, you give a certain amount of points. The more good rep you have, the more points the rep you give is worth. Are we mere mortal members allowed to know what the scale of rep points to given rep is?
nope. a dont believe Graphite even knows. Schweb might but i dont think he will tell.

baggss
08-05-2006, 05:33 PM
I guess that makes sense. In reality, it's not that hard to figure out, or at least make an educated guess at.

PowerBookG4
08-05-2006, 05:35 PM
Schweb knows just about everything. He is the ruler, and we are his people.

Graphite
08-05-2006, 11:45 PM
Well yes I do know the current scale... It is based on how many reps you have and how long you have been a member... how ever if your wondering the how many points = how many reps dished out that one I am keeping locked up :biohazard (it changes based on %ages so its hard to pin point)

coach_z
08-05-2006, 11:50 PM
Well yes I do know the current scale... It is based on how many reps you have and how long you have been a member... how ever if your wondering the how many points = how many reps dished out that one I am keeping locked up :biohazard (it changes based on %ages so its hard to pin point)

long story short, graphite gives out the most points per rep. and caveatipss gives out the lease amount of points per rep
-chris

baggss
08-06-2006, 12:40 AM
(it changes based on %ages so its hard to pin point)

Ok, That makes sense...



and caveatipss gives out the lease amount of points per rep
-chris

Can folks with negative rep even give rep? I think it just comes out grey and doesn't add or detract.

avcabob
08-06-2006, 12:45 AM
Can folks with negative rep even give rep? I think it just comes out grey and doesn't add or detract.

Wouldn't that still be the least? He's still at the bottom, just not alone.

Graphite
08-06-2006, 07:22 AM
People with negative reputation do not effect your reputation score.. just the same as people that are too new, So if you see a grey dot, just assume the person is new and cannot pass out points yet.

Graphite
08-09-2006, 08:12 PM
For some reason, this just does not seem to sink in:
History:
The Mac-Forums user reputation system was brought about because people were abusing/post-building the post count. Yes, that is correct, that little "posts: ####" line under your avatar.

The Forum received many posts related to "omg roxorz my post count is now ####" and threads saying "yay me, i waste my time caring about post count! its now up to ####".

So we removed the post counter.

This left people all distraught. They didn't know how good they were, or how much they roxored compared to anyone else. "oh no!"

So we decided on a new system "the mac-forums.com user reputation system" People calmed down about posts, and didn't really care about post #'s and started caring about quality. So we brought the post count back and left the user reputation system up.

Where are we now and How should we think about the system?
Recently the user reputation system has become more popular. Member reputation is fast rising. This also means, people are starting to care about it. In a way that it shouldn't be cared about.

The user reputation system right now is still very new and not particularly accurate. But everyday you rate someone positive on their post or negative on their post, it gets more and more accurate.

Positive points: You will get a positive reputation point when you post something and another member enjoys it. Or another member thought you are really helpful lately on a number of your posts. Or you were just really nice to the other member. No one complains

Negative points: This is the place were people care. They shouldn't. Everyone makes mistakes, not everyone will love what you post. But as long as your posting helpful things, or your nice to other people your positive reputation level will rise. You may receive negative rep if...
You posted something that was offensive.
You posted something that was already posted.
You posted something and the other person just didn't like you.
You posted something and the other person thought you had poor grammar.
You posted something and there was no reason.. etc

Also everyone gets negative reputation. I get them all the time :biohazard Its all part of the game.

Grey points: Someone either hated or loved your post, but:
they didn't have enough reputation
or posts
or were too new.
or all of the above.

Do I have to leave a message with the rep?
Nope. Leaving a message is alright, it helps give the person an idea of what in particular you didn't like about their post.
Leaving your name on positive reputation points is fine. It creates a friendly atmosphere.
Leaving your name on negative reputation points is stupid. It creates an angry atmosphere.

Its easier to take criticism when you don't know who the person is, this will keep reputation wars from happening, and will keep the reputation system running.

What happens if we don't do as you suggest?
We remove the reputation system, which would be shame, its a fun tool when used properly.

How many points do I give or take?
+:Most of you give one, or two points.
A few of you give 3 or 4 points.
about 4 of you give 5 or more points.
-:Most of you take 1 point.
a few take 2.
about 4 of you take 3 or more points.

How is that determined?
How many reputation points you give or take is based on how long you have been a member and how many points you have. Its all based on %, therefore there is no accurate way for you to know.

macEfan
08-09-2006, 08:21 PM
great summary of the rep system! Perhaps you should post it in a seperatre thread, sticky, and then lock so everyone will be able to see it. If you leave it in this thread, other's will post and then over time, this post will get pushed farther and farther back. I like how it explains everything. It will help those new to the rep system figure out whats going on and answer their qestions!

Graphite
08-09-2006, 09:12 PM
Here (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39491) it is.

baggss
08-10-2006, 03:08 PM
Hey, Graphite just cross posted! ;)

dtravis7
08-10-2006, 03:19 PM
So you going to leave him Negative Rep for it? :spook:

Graphite
08-10-2006, 07:16 PM
Hey, Graphite just cross posted! ;)

Correct, but my posts are not questions, they are things all members should know. The more places they are at, the better. Also, the thread I made is slightly different and closed.

Its not quite the same as "help my ipod wont turn on!" "help my ipod wont turn on!" "help my ipod wont turn on!" ...

PowerBookG4
08-13-2006, 10:42 AM
Alot of new members are using the rep system. I like how the system is catching on with the newer people, I have alot of grey dots.

coach_z
08-13-2006, 10:55 AM
i have a few grey dots myself!!!!
-chris

Graphite
08-13-2006, 04:26 PM
grey dots also come from people with below 10 reputation points :) (mb less than 5)

coach_z
08-14-2006, 12:26 AM
i got some good rep from graphite today!!!!
-chris

PowerBookG4
08-14-2006, 12:38 AM
I ahve not had any graphite reps in a while.. lol..

Most of my reps are grey, lol.. I guess the new (and low reps) people like me :) lol.

Doesn't bother me though, I do not pay attention to the rep system that much, I have enough green dots to make my profile side thingy not look empty.. so I don't care, I just try to be helpful, lol.

Graphite
08-14-2006, 11:29 AM
Good PBG4! worry about helping not about rep.

ps. I usually give/take rep to people who give it to me, then if I have space left I pass it out to others with good posts.

D3v1L80Y
08-15-2006, 09:19 PM
Good PBG4! worry about helping not about rep.

Yes, helping is what should come first, not the amount of bars next to your name. If you look at it like that, then it is no better than postcount. I mean, anyone could buddy up with someone and pass rep back and forth between them to boost rep points. And quite frankly, that would be really lame if anyone was doing that...not to mention abusing the system.

I have a large amount of rep, but that comes from lots and lots of people. I try to stay active on the forums and give quality advice and help to all.
I reciprocate the rep I get from others when it is called for.
I pass out rep evenly to those who deserve it, when they deserve it... not just because someone gave it to me first. :black:

coach_z
08-15-2006, 09:27 PM
i work in a similar fashion DB, i know you have some rep comin your way along with pbg4 and a few others. i ran out of rep points to give out the other day so i need to go make up for those that i didnt give
-chris

dtravis7
08-15-2006, 09:29 PM
Ditto here. I try to give out rep when the person is very helpfull or contributes to the Forums here. A lot of times I forget and don't give it when I should.

I think it's a good system and really works here.

macAttack
08-15-2006, 09:53 PM
i've been receiving more rep lately, i think the system is really catching up with new and older members. I try to give rep when i remember.....

macEfan
08-15-2006, 09:55 PM
now that I think about it, I think I'd still rather have the rep system than nothing at all... it just makes mac-forums unique.. I don't know of many other forums that have rep systems and so many helpful members!

sursuciofla
10-09-2006, 03:21 PM
So I love to give out reputation, 99% of the time good or else I don't bother b/c the guy already has a red mark.

Anyways, so a lot of the time I run out of rep b/c apparantly I gave too much or I can't give the same person rep Back2Back and must spread some love around it tells me.

1. Soooo, how long do you have to wait to give out rep after it gives you message.

2. If I give a person good rep and they have multiple awesome posts why can't they be rewarded? Many times someone gives so many great posts, usually two or more in a row, but I can only give one rep and then must spread around. Then I spread around and it gives me same message that I must spread more. I can understand if you give bad rep why you must wait but then sometimes I forget to go back and give good rep because I had to wait.

Like D3v1L80Y is amazing but can't give anymore rep right now. Not cool!

PowerBookG4
10-09-2006, 05:37 PM
ps. I usually give/take rep to people who give it to me, then if I have space left I pass it out to others with good posts.

Partially Guilty of doing this myself.

macEfan
10-09-2006, 08:16 PM
So I love to give out reputation, 99% of the time good or else I don't bother b/c the guy already has a red mark.

Anyways, so a lot of the time I run out of rep b/c apparantly I gave too much or I can't give the same person rep Back2Back and must spread some love around it tells me.

1. Soooo, how long do you have to wait to give out rep after it gives you message.

2. If I give a person good rep and they have multiple awesome posts why can't they be rewarded? Many times someone gives so many great posts, usually two or more in a row, but I can only give one rep and then must spread around. Then I spread around and it gives me same message that I must spread more. I can understand if you give bad rep why you must wait but then sometimes I forget to go back and give good rep because I had to wait.

Like D3v1L80Y is amazing but can't give anymore rep right now. Not cool!


I think its mainly to prevent someone from giving themselves tons of free rep by using a fake accout, or passing rep back and fourth just to raise your rep points. If you spread rep around a few people, then you can go back to the origional person and give them more rep IF you think they really deserve it.

PowerBookG4
10-10-2006, 01:16 PM
Something I would like to remind people of the boards to do:

If leaving a good comment, leave your name... it makes people think more of you.

If you are leaving a bad comment don't leave your name!!! That is just stupid and might start a negitive comment war amounst two people... you know how people are.

eric
12-13-2006, 11:34 PM
i was just searching to see for sure how the grey pips work in the rep section in a profile (if its for positive and negative from a low ranking member or just negative - seems to be the former).

saw this last comment...


If you are leaving a bad comment don't leave your name!!! That is just stupid

if i'm too scared to leave negative rep, i just don't leave it. otherwise i own up to it.

i find it insulting to say it's "stupid". i think it's honorable. and no, i'm not giving pgb4 negative rep for him saying that, it's his opinion, i just disagree, i don't think it's right to give negative rep for differences of opinion, just for actual misinformation.

dtravis7
12-13-2006, 11:49 PM
I only give a Negative for breaking the forum rules and fanboys coming here just to start a war. Otherwise I don't see a need to leave neg Rep and especially if someone has another opinion. People have a right to have a different opinion as long as they don't bash other for not agreeing with them.

I do try to reward very helpfull users here though with positive Rep!! :spook:

eric
12-13-2006, 11:53 PM
I only give a Negative for breaking the forum rules and fanboys coming here just to start a war.


i just report those... :-p

eric
12-14-2006, 12:49 AM
clever.

someone with a ton of cajones has given me anonymous negative rep for this.
quote: "don't be stupid".

seems like someone with a bit of rep too. had 96, this and a positive from kodorsean (who has little rep), brought me to 93.

this is really rediculous. i'm not the type to get in a rep war with anyone, so i get about 10% of my total rep removed because someone wanted to be a jerk. great.

of course, with this, good luck ever getting that person to out themselves, and of course i'm putting myself in the postion of having this same person give me negative rep periodically (or more). has to be said though. honesty and integrity are more important than "rep".

eric
12-14-2006, 12:53 AM
also noticed that there only seems to be one other member viewing this thread for a good length of time... but i won't name names (it's may not be accurate and i'm not that type of person).

KoDorSean
12-14-2006, 12:58 AM
also noticed that there only seems to be one other member viewing this thread for a good length of time... but i won't name names (it's may not be accurate and i'm not that type of person).

I give a lot more rep than i receive.. I really could care less, I come here to try and help people.. I am happy with a personal avatar and sig :P

eric
12-14-2006, 01:02 AM
not sure if you misunderstood me...

i wasn't trying to point out anything abotu how much rep you give or receive, just that like me, you have a low rep (one pip - spectacular aura). we probably affect others by only a point or two when we give positive or negative rep.

even if your positive gave me 2 (thanks btw), then the other person removed 5, if your positive is only worth 1 then the other person took 6. so ok, less than 10%, but still considerable. also a shame that someone with that much rep would pull a stunt like this.

so, this was nothing negative about you kodorsean (you actually helped me get back a point or two http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/mac_images/images/icons/icon14.gif).

KoDorSean
12-14-2006, 01:06 AM
not sure if you misunderstood me...

i wasn't trying to point out anything abotu how much rep you give or receive, just that like me, you have a low rep (one pip - spectacular aura). we probably affect others by only a point or two when we give positive or negative rep.

even if your positive gave me 2 (thanks btw), then the other person removed 5, if your positive is only worth 1 then the other person took 6. so ok, less than 10%, but still considerable. also a shame that someone with that much rep would pull a stunt like this.

so, this was nothing negative about you kodorsean (you actually helped me get back a point or two http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/mac_images/images/icons/icon14.gif).

I understand.. I guess my point or question to you is why is rep so important to you?

eric
12-14-2006, 01:11 AM
it's not the actual total of rep so much...

it's that someone is being a jerk (whatever the tool).

the reputation system is there so i have some idea of:
1) weather or not someone actually found my advise or information helpful
2) to gauge how "on the money" somoene else's advise or info may be (if they have lots of rep, i'm going to guess it's probably accurate, though not necessarily any more accurate than someone with low rep)

abusing it to make a point seems like it should be some sort of offense (as well moderated as these boards are). bannable perhaps, or at least enough to suspend someone.

KoDorSean
12-14-2006, 01:16 AM
it's not the actual total of rep so much...

it's that someone is being a jerk (whatever the tool).

the reputation system is there so i have some idea of:
1) weather or not someone actually found my advise or information helpful
2) to gauge how "on the money" somoene else's advise or info may be (if they have lots of rep, i'm going to guess it's probably accurate, though not necessarily any more accurate than someone with low rep)

abusing it to make a point seems like it should be some sort of offense (as well moderated as these boards are). bannable perhaps, or at least enough to suspend someone.

I understand. Is it just me or are there very few members with high rep?

eric
12-14-2006, 01:21 AM
hmm, i've noticed plenty of members with a few pips or higher. really high numbers... probably a handful.
probaby has to do with length of time on the boards and whether or not they're still active. take the "graphite" fellow who's all over this thread. he's got 9 pips and seems as though he was a mod or admin, but now he's banned. from searching old threads too, looks like there's plenty of people who have quite a bit of rep who just aren;t very active anymore.

Fallooza
12-14-2006, 06:13 AM
hmm, i've noticed plenty of members with a few pips or higher. really high numbers... probably a handful.
probaby has to do with length of time on the boards and whether or not they're still active. take the "graphite" fellow who's all over this thread. he's got 9 pips and seems as though he was a mod or admin, but now he's banned. from searching old threads too, looks like there's plenty of people who have quite a bit of rep who just aren;t very active anymore.

you are very observant young one. you may one day too fall ta the darkside with us big pips.

eric
12-14-2006, 06:17 AM
big pips

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/mac_images/images/icons/icon10.gif

Fallooza
12-14-2006, 06:27 AM
http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/mac_images/images/icons/icon10.gif

also dont worry about the rep. be an active member and dont be a jerk. thats all it takes ta get rep. i never help out anyone but still foolish people seem ta give me rep. and dont worry about the negative ones. we all get um. look at mine.

eric
12-14-2006, 06:32 AM
the thing is, i wouldn't make a huge deal out of it if it was someone newish, or who just had low rep - i've had that happen, grey pip, whatever.

this was someone who knows the drill. and like i said, i'm pretty sure i know who it was, and they seem like they've got their stuff together. so i'm a bit miffed that they would have done this.

i know i'm on an upward trend - that is of course unless this guy determines that he should make it his business that i begin a downward trend.
perhaps the name of the person who leaves rep should just be mandatory, another column in the table...

Fallooza
12-14-2006, 06:43 AM
the thing is, i wouldn't make a huge deal out of it if it was someone newish, or who just had low rep - i've had that happen, grey pip, whatever.

this was someone who knows the drill. and like i said, i'm pretty sure i know who it was, and they seem like they've got their stuff together. so i'm a bit miffed that they would have done this.

i know i'm on an upward trend - that is of course unless this guy determines that he should make it his business that i begin a downward trend.
perhaps the name of the person who leaves rep should just be mandatory, another column in the table...

just let it go man. its only rep. its not a refection of your character.

MacHeadCase
12-14-2006, 06:45 AM
Yeah you get the weirdest grey rep points sometimes... I got a minus for this post (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=282551#post282551) and this one (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=282867#post282867) and it beats the helloutta me to know why.

I don't think the rep system is all that hot, frankly: just an opportunity for some people to feel they can get even anonymously if they don't appreciate your posting style or whatever the heck it is.

Steenking rep system or not, it won't stop me from coming here once in a while to help if I can.

schweb
12-14-2006, 07:24 AM
Rep is not only for rating advice, it's for the overall experience the user presents. Negative rep is completely allowable if the person thinks you gave bad advice, disagreed with with you said, or for any other legitimate reason. If it's batantly obvious that they're just trying to get back at you or something similar, report it to a mod.

Negative rep is part of life here, we all get them for various reasons. The end is that the more helpful and positive you are, the more likely you are to get a ton of green dots, even with negative rep.

Read through this thread, we've discussed it before, you might find some of the information helpful.

puaerotch
12-14-2006, 10:15 AM
also dont worry about the rep. be an active member and dont be a jerk. thats all it takes ta get rep. i never help out anyone but still foolish people seem ta give me rep. and dont worry about the negative ones. we all get um. look at mine.

I didn't know your name was Richard. ("Good job, ****. He doesn't like iTunes")


as for the problems with negative rep, I've said it before and I suppose it wouldn't hurt to say it again: "Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

imacmatt09
12-14-2006, 10:26 AM
Alot of times people abuse the negitve rep thing. I used to do that. Well till i learned better and i havent used negitve since then. But sometimes people give me negitve rep if they are bored. i have had lots of it with no comment at all. but if thats how they feel about me then so be it. I think you should have to leave a comment on the negitve one so people just cant leave you rep for no point. but im not complaining or anything but i think that should happen.

surfwax95
12-14-2006, 03:17 PM
Why don't we just eliminate the rep all together?

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imacmatt09
12-14-2006, 03:43 PM
Why don't we just eliminate the rep all together?

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sounds good to me

Zoolook
12-14-2006, 03:49 PM
Why don't we just eliminate the rep all together?

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Well... just to join the club, I got negative rep for daring to suggest Blu-Ray was HD compatible...

But anyway, if I may be a little pompous for a moment.

Forums are little societies and societies always feel the need to appropriate status to its members. In forums, Admins are bascially gods, Mods are like the cops (no offence) and so the rest of us scrabble around for some sort of recognition.

In the good old days, it was post count that counted. Anyone with less than 5,000 posts was clueless and anyone with less than 500 posts was probably the subject of ridicule and name calling. Of course, then someone figured out that just because some 14 year old on Daddy's Dell posted a 'wtf' or a smiley on every single thread on the board, it didn't make them a genius or even a valued member of the community.

Consultants were hired, the OpenSource community wracked its brains and billions of dollars of public money was spent... the result... the reputation system.

The rep system is supposed to give people an idea as to who is likely to give good advice and add some value to a conversation and who is unpopular. On the whole I think it works, but of course it's open to abuse.

Now I have a confession to make... and as Member of the Month, I should get away with it...

On another very popular tech forum, they had a rep system. In fact it was almost the same as this one (same vBulletin). Myself and about 20 other 'veterans' of the board used to meet offline on MSN and do 'rep farming' and 'terminating'. Basically we'd all exchange positive rep, boosting our figures well into the 300's after only a few weeks and then we'd target 2 or 3 people we hated (fan boys and trolls mainly) and hit them with negative rep sending them flying into the red. On this particular board, if your rep went below -20, you got banned...

Anyway, the point wasn't to bully people or make fun, it was prove a point that the rep system can be abused. Yes silly, agreed immature but was mildly amusing anyway.

Leaving bad rep and leaving your name will only result in retaliation... people canot help themselves, especially on forums - but I do think that the amount of positive and negative rep a person is leaving generally, should be made public.

schweb
12-14-2006, 07:31 PM
No system is perfect and it never will be. Post count isn't perfect, rep points aren't perfect...heck even the MoTM process isn't perfect. But that's why we have a combination.

If you get a neg rep here or there, just accept it and move on, it happens to us all.

If you get a lot of negative rep, I'd start to examine how you behave here and why you're perceived badly rather than blaming everyone else.

To be honest, and this is just my opinion, those people who have gotten slammed with a lot of negative rep from members have always deserved it. I haven't yet seen a case of that happening to someone when it was not deserved.

cwa107
01-20-2007, 11:02 PM
No system is perfect and it never will be. Post count isn't perfect, rep points aren't perfect...heck even the MoTM process isn't perfect. But that's why we have a combination.

If you get a neg rep here or there, just accept it and move on, it happens to us all.

If you get a lot of negative rep, I'd start to examine how you behave here and why you're perceived badly rather than blaming everyone else.

To be honest, and this is just my opinion, those people who have gotten slammed with a lot of negative rep from members have always deserved it. I haven't yet seen a case of that happening to someone when it was not deserved.

FWIW, I absolutely love the reputation system on this board - not because my reputation has thus far been positive, but because it stands as an enforcement tool to obey the "golden rule". In other forum communities I've been a member of, reputation was measured in post count - and there were many members who were just plain jerks, but got away with it and were generally respected because they had 1000+ posts and had been there forever. The problem was, no one wanted to debate or even converse with them because it always turned into an argument that eventually degraded into name-calling with no repercussions.

I've only been a member of Mac-forums for a few weeks now and am a complete noob to the Mac. I have to say that this is by far the most helpful forum I've been privileged to be a member of and have done my best to give back wherever possible - not because I'm trying to amass reputation points, but because of the quality of the community. I think the reputation system has a lot to do with that. It is certainly an effective deterrent to those that would otherwise be smug or short with new members like myself.

I hope you find this feedback helpful and don't think of it as just a way to kiss up to the moderator. Although several people have raised some valid concerns in this thread, IMO, the rep system is a good compromise to provide some checks and balances for this kind of community.

PowerBookG4
01-25-2007, 05:54 PM
As of right now, I can not think of any improvements to the rep system that have to be made. The system is perfect (the only problem with the system is that when you give bad rep, the message says "may you be lucky enough to receive the same reputation in return" or something like that) The system works, and it even benefits the newer users equally as much, because if they are helpful they can have plenty of green dots even if their post count is low... over all, its a great system, and I hope that it does not get changed.

KoDorSean
02-01-2007, 10:12 PM
alright this might be bad but I am being honest here. I do not feel like reading through 183 posts so if this has already been answered I am sorry. Is there a limit to how many green dots one can get?

NanoBite
02-01-2007, 10:15 PM
The question hasn't been asked AFAIK ...

KoDorSean
02-01-2007, 10:18 PM
The question hasn't been asked AFAIK ...

AFAIK?

eric
02-01-2007, 10:19 PM
as far as i know

KoDorSean
02-01-2007, 10:20 PM
as far as i know

TYVM (thank you very much)

D3v1L80Y
02-01-2007, 10:23 PM
From earlier in the thread:
1 - 0
2 - 100
3 - 200
4 - 300
5 - 400
6 - 500
7 - 700link (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=234078&postcount=93)

At the time there was only 7 dots expected. That has of course been breached by a couple of people here. I honestly don't know what the limit is.

KoDorSean
02-01-2007, 10:28 PM
From earlier in the thread:link (http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=234078&postcount=93)

At the time there was only 7 dots expected. That has of course been breached by a couple of people here. I honestly don't know what the limit is.

so its safe you have 900+ rep points then?

D3v1L80Y
02-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Yes. If you notice, starting when you reach 500 points (6 dots), it then takes 200 points to get to the next dot each time.

KoDorSean
02-01-2007, 10:33 PM
Yes. If you notice, starting when you reach 500 points (6 dots), it then takes 200 points to get to the next dot each time.

geez man! you need to get a life. ;)

NanoBite
02-01-2007, 10:42 PM
DB watcheth over us all.

CrossBones
02-01-2007, 11:43 PM
I think you can get 11 max. That is what the latest vB allows.