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macgig
01-26-2017, 08:36 PM
I googled the name of a used car place near me, then went to their website from the results. then a day or so later im on another website, and ads show up for the thing I googled the day before. this seemed odd to me. could this mean their spyware or something on my mac? how can I find out?

lclev
01-26-2017, 08:48 PM
Nope not odd. Welcome to the world of tracking. This is why I run Ghostery and UBlock Origin as my browser extensions. This prevents the tracking. Just install Ghostery and check block all or modify it to suit. That will stop the pop up ads. You might need to disable Ghostery for some sites that have pop ups you want.

Lisa

pigoo3
01-26-2017, 08:57 PM
Called "cookies".;)

Try doing some other searches for other items or services...and you'll find the same thing happens.

As Lisa expertly mentioned...there are ways to spoof the "cookie monster"!;)

- Nick

macgig
01-28-2017, 12:09 PM
ive heard of cookies never thought much about them over the years. so I search for "joes pizza place" near me using google, and when I visit a website Ive only been too a few times, it shows ads based on my searches. sort of creepy in a way, like big brother is watching. thanks for the replies. is the cookie coming from google or the website I went to, or something else? guess it don't matter. I tried disabling cookies years ago I recall, but then many if not most websites don't work well when you do that.

RadDave
01-28-2017, 12:39 PM
ive heard of cookies never thought much about them over the years. so I search for "joes pizza place" near me using google, and when I visit a website Ive only been too a few times, it shows ads based on my searches. sort of creepy in a way, like big brother is watching. thanks for the replies. is the cookie coming from google or the website I went to, or something else? guess it don't matter. I tried disabling cookies years ago I recall, but then many if not most websites don't work well when you do that.

Hi - 'cookies' are small text files that websites leave on your computer's drive - they have multiple purposes, including storing your login data and other information, if desired (such as your credit card); most are 'innocent' but can be used for tracking and other usually just annoying practices. Not sure which browser you are using, but in Apple's Safari, cookies and website data can be managed - first open 'Preferences' in the Safari menu bar, then click on 'Privacy' - there cookies/website data can be managed (first pic below) - if you then click on 'Manage Website Data...', the second pic below shows the dialog box - there, individual or multiple or all websites can be deleted - I've scrolled down to my Amazon cookie which contains my login data (and my credit card) - if I deleted that entry, then on my next sign-in to the site, I'd have to re-enter that information.

Now if you are using another browser(s), then explore their options for managing this information. Also, there are other ways to eliminate cookies etc. - for example, many here, including me, use OnyX from Titanium Software (http://www.titanium.free.fr), just another choice. Dave :)

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macgig
01-28-2017, 12:47 PM
I use firefox mostly. I'm ok with cookies storing login info, but the ones that show ads or popups behind the window I have open gets a bit annoying. guess I'll have to learn how to manage them better on fire fox. :) I do have Onyx also never used it to manage cookies. I'll check into that too. thanks.

macgig
01-28-2017, 12:55 PM
I have cookies from sites i've never visited, like 1world.com, and 123456789.log.optimizely.com., adingo.jp.. never visited a site by that URL, but I have a cookie for it. I guess when i'm clicking stuff and web surfin, all this stuff gets on there without my knowing about it.

pigoo3
01-28-2017, 01:09 PM
I have cookies from sites i've never visited, like 1world.com, and 123456789.log.optimizely.com., adingo.jp.. never visited a site by that URL, but I have a cookie for it. I guess when i'm clicking stuff and web surfin, all this stuff gets on there without my knowing about it.

You've probably visited 100's or 1000's of different websites over the years that you've been computing. If you can remember EVERY website you've ever been to...I hope you're making millions of dollars a year. Because that's a pretty special skill!;)

- Nick

MacInWin
01-28-2017, 02:33 PM
Also, remember that Google is in the business of selling information. So you log into Google and do a search for "joes pizza place" and they take note that your internet IP asked for pizza. They sell that information and the next time you go into the Internet, the ad companies will know to focus pizza place ads to that IP, and will customize appropriately. Until and unless your ISP changes your internet IP, you'll keep getting those "focused" ads. Cookies help, because having a cookie from Google that you like pizza can also be used to focus ads for you. The website you visit with Google ads will see the cookie and display pizza ads. It's life in the Internet.

macgig
01-28-2017, 02:42 PM
good to know thanks.

harryb2448
01-28-2017, 03:25 PM
1. Download and install Ghostery.

2. use Duck Duck Go as your search engine evenn if it means using Safari and abandoning FF as Mozilla has dropped the ball.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-turn-do-not-track-feature?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=how-do-i-stop-websites-tracking-me

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/remove-google-tracking/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-abandons-firefox-tracking-protection-initiative/

macgig
01-28-2017, 03:47 PM
I dont like the idea of being tracked even though im not doing anything illegal. its just not right. looks like I have to try something new which is tough for this old guy. lol. thanks for all the help.

pigoo3
01-28-2017, 04:03 PM
I dont like the idea of being tracked even though im not doing anything illegal. its just not right. looks like I have to try something new which is tough for this old guy. lol. thanks for all the help.

This is the way the internet is. Advertiser's and other's are trying to make money...and this is how they gather info. If you don't like it ( I think few of us do)...you got to disable cookies whenever possible...run apps like "Ghostery", and only provide personal info when necessary.

Apps like Ghostery do a very good job. Give it a try.:)

- Nick

macgig
01-28-2017, 04:21 PM
ghostery is installed. just need to learn it and get use to it now. is it mostly automatic or must I do something everytime I visit a site?

harryb2448
01-28-2017, 05:42 PM
No you have to do nothing. Just check it is installed in Preferences. And ticked.

lclev
01-28-2017, 07:50 PM
And I also use DuckDuckGo as my search engine. They do not track you. Plus they use all the other search engines to find results for you.

Lisa

MacInWin
01-28-2017, 11:24 PM
And that you have selected to block what you want. I went for ALL.

chscag
01-28-2017, 11:30 PM
And I also use DuckDuckGo as my search engine. They do not track you. Plus they use all the other search engines to find results for you.

Lisa

OK, then how do you know that you are not being indirectly tracked? As an ex-teacher I'm sure you have read George Orwell's novel "1984"? Big Brother is alive and active! :P

(Just teasing you Lisa.)

nickyr
01-29-2017, 06:24 AM
Rather amusingly....

When I was diagnosed with myeloma, I of course took to looking it up on the internet.

Within days I was receiving emails from a company called "plan My Funeral"!!!

Good job I had a better outlook on my future than they did!

Sawday
01-29-2017, 07:02 AM
I find it amusing that companies are paying for these useless ads. Having visited Amazon, say, to look at a particular power drill, I immediately see ad's for the same power drill available at Amazon. I usually shout at the screen " I know - I've just been looking at it you stupid people". I though that the purpose of advertising was to bring to your attention things that you did not know about. Not at all sure that the Google Ad people have read the manual.

ferrarr
01-29-2017, 09:02 AM
Traditional advertising does not work the same as internet advertising. Clicking is money, not that that makes sense, but it is. Thanks google.

harryb2448
01-29-2017, 03:31 PM
1. They cannot hear you Sawday. This I have learnt giving my footie team advice whilst watching games on TV for many decades.

2. If it didn't sell it would soon stop, so obviously it works.

3. There is no manual in marketing just an old Latin proverb 'A buck is a buck is a buck'!

lclev
01-29-2017, 04:17 PM
OK, then how do you know that you are not being indirectly tracked? As an ex-teacher I'm sure you have read George Orwell's novel "1984"? Big Brother is alive and active! :P

(Just teasing you Lisa.)

'Cause it says so!

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...And I believe everything I read! O:)

Lisa

pm-r
01-29-2017, 06:17 PM
...And I believe everything I read!

Quite right!! ;) Well duckduck says so…

And probably the reason I don't use it. :D

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harryb2448
01-29-2017, 06:26 PM
Whilst DuckDuckGo does not track one whilst using the search engine, of course as soon as you click on a link one moves out of the protection of the browser into the open market place as it were, and cookies rain down on one more heavy than Portia described in 'The Merchant of Venice'. So to me that is very limited protection at its best.,

pm-r
01-29-2017, 08:53 PM
So true:
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:

One definitely needs an umbrella and other protection when out strolling the 'net these days!!!

Actually when I'm interested in something I want to purchase these days and not in a hurry, I'll purposely do some web searching at various sites with cookies enabled, and then check out the results for the likes of amazon and other online sales sites that come in via email or whatever.

The one problem is, it's sometimes hard to turn off when I'm finished.

Like, no, I really don't need an active SCSI terminator any more… but maybe I exaggerate just a bit… ;)






- Patrick
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cradom
01-30-2017, 08:09 AM
Really want to mess with Google's tracking?
http://ruinmysearchhistory.com/

Be advised: some of the searches are odd.

lclev
01-30-2017, 01:32 PM
I am well aware we are tracked even if using DuckDuckGo but it is my own small rebellion. Just like I will take time to unsubscribe from email lists I never signed up for. I realize by unsubscribing I will be telling the unscrupulous ones that my email is a live one but I feel the need to try. And I have one "junk" email I use when a site has to have an email address. Just this morning I had 129 junk emails and that was before I started culling through the ones the filters missed.

Lisa

MacInWin
02-03-2017, 12:26 PM
Lisa, I use pobox.com to block junk mail. I still get some, but most of the more offensive spam gets blocked really well. I've been with them for years. The really neat function is that although I've changed my "real" email provider several times, the email address I give out has not changed. Pobox filters and forwards email from my public address to the private one. If any spammer figures out my real address and I start getting spam directly there I just change email providers and tell Pobox to change the forward address to the new one. Slick!

lclev
02-03-2017, 04:13 PM
I will check it out. Thanks Jake :D

Lisa