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chscag
07-26-2014, 07:48 PM
Apple will 'set the world on fire' with iPhone 6 sales (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9249983/Apple_will_set_the_world_on_fire_with_iPhone_6_sal es) - Computerworld

chscag
07-26-2014, 08:29 PM
Well, I hope they get those "fires" going soon because the new Samsung "Galaxy S 5" with a 5.1" screen is selling like crazy around here. The large screen and sleek body makes my iPhone 5c look "left behind". ;P

pm-r
07-26-2014, 08:41 PM
I'm always a bit concerned when I read such articles that includes the "...analysts said this week..." part.

And especially concerned over at least part of the name "analysts"... :D

Slydude
07-26-2014, 09:45 PM
I'm beginning to think we should keep a scorecard on these guys to see who has the best accuracy. You just can't please some of these guys. Let's not forget some of them have been behind some Apple predictions that were way out there. Apple TV set for example.

I stopped attenting to this when I realized there was no pleasing some of them. If the new iPhone arrived Monday and had phenomenal sales numbers there will be something to complain about.. The whining would follow one of three likely lines:

1. If sales were high but didn't reach analysts expectation gloom and doom will follow immediately. The "failure" will be blamed on some missing feature that its mot clear people actually want. This would be followed by a lengthy treatise on how Android is not only killing iPhone but the iPone will be obsolete within six months. The proposed replacement will be android based with a screen the size of the flight deck of the U S S Ronald Reagan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ronald_Reagan_(CVN-76)).

2. If Apple doesn't produce enough phones to meet the initial demand they will be cast as idiots for not anticipating demand well enough.

3. If they have a surplus of phones available then it's gloom and doom because clearly they aren't selling what they expected to sell.

Apple has made numerous mistakes over the years. Some real others imagined by analysts. Some mistakes were bad management others were part of the cost of innovation. For now I;ll ignore the analysts.

WolfsBane
08-01-2014, 06:40 PM
I have news for those analysts... Customers don't care about their projections. The rumors these past two weeks of delays, unavailability of the sapphire glass in these models, plus now the news that the 5.5 inch phablet may be pushed back to 2015 are making a lot of people waiting to upgrade and new phone buyers pretty ticked off. Many of them feel that there isn't enough features and innovations in these phones to justify the hype. I'm seeing a ton of people walking in to the Verizon store or Best Buy to start to seriously research the LG G3, Samsung GS5, and the new HTC phones as their next purchase. And still more of them are waiting for Samsung to release the new Samsung Note 4.

Apple needs to "knock it out of the park" with the two versions of the iPhone 6, or they will be losing, not only potential new customers, but also current iPhone clients as well. Apple has waited too long, IMO, to advance features on its phone product lines, and the competition has been catching up, and in some sense, leaping forward. The only thing that has been stopping some customers from jumping at the competition has been the hesitancy of moving to Droid, and the promise of a larger and more feature ladden iPhone, and apparently, Apple is not all that ready to deliver the goods this year.

harryb2448
08-01-2014, 06:53 PM
Lovely just what we shareholders like to hear!

pm-r
08-01-2014, 07:10 PM
My youngest son, an avid Apple users would certainly agree with your comments I'm sure, and like so many others, he and his wife gave up on Apple and their top-end iPhones and became one of the many switchers to "the other side" and their cell phones many months ago.

And their decision was based on both hardware and available software, so I'd say Apple has a lot of catching up to do in their cell phone market for a lot of users.

ericpicc
08-05-2014, 11:51 PM
Catching up is over I think, when you look at the other brands out there what could Apple really do to leap forward.
Not much really, add a few extra gadgets, and tweak the software and really thats about all.
It will only do well because its Apple by name.
The iPhone should have been what the Samsung and HTC is today with the release of the 4s.
I for one looked at the other brands and only went with the iPhone 5s because everything is in sync with our other Apple products, apart from that I felt let down by Apple with the lack of advancement.
But lets hope I'm wrong and the phone will be out of this world, or at least compete with the others, till then I'll keep on using my 5s.

chas_m
08-08-2014, 06:31 AM
If the Galaxy S5 is selling like hotcakes, I wonder why Samsung doesn't seem to know that?

Samsung reports 15 percent revenue drop from previous quarter | Electronista (http://www.electronista.com/articles/14/07/31/revenues.down.from.previous.year.quarter.second.ha lf.of.year.will.remain.a.challenge/)

In particular: "IT and Mobile Communications (the latter being the smartphone division) underperformed as well when compared to the $34.6 billion (35.54 trillion won) in 2013. It represents a decline of $6.9 billion (7.09 trillion won), or about 20 percent."

This is not to say Samsung's on the rocks or anything, but the Galaxy S5 is pretty widely acknowledged as, well, a product that failed to meet sales expectations, like the Galaxy S4 before it. Samsung, in point of fact, makes most of its money on low-end phones, not its high-end products. This is their major advantage over Apple, IMO -- they compete in lots of markets Apple doesn't even bother with (and I'm not referring to just phones here).

I also read with interest a survey that indicated that approximately 35 percent of Android users (http://www.electronista.com/articles/14/06/25/investment.bank.study.shows.strong.interest.even.i f.bigger.screen.costs.extra/) would switch to an iPhone if they made one with a larger display. I'm dubious about that being perfectly accurate, but it has been my experience that every single person -- without exception -- whom I have ever asked "why did you buy this Android phone" has answered in one of two ways:

a. "Bigger screen" (the vast majority)
b. "Free on contract or cheap with no contract"

dtravis7
08-08-2014, 07:17 AM
Accidentally drop a S5 into water then a IP5. Which will work afterwords. That alone impressed me. Sorry. And accidents happen with cell phones.

cwa107
08-08-2014, 09:53 AM
Accidentally drop a S5 into water then a IP5. Which will work afterwords. That alone impressed me. Sorry. And accidents happen with cell phones.

That is the single best quality of the S5 in my opinion. Definitely something worth considering, if they haven't already duplicated it with the iPhone 6. Too many people lose phones this way. I was thinking about this just the other day while we were in an amusement park. How easy would it be to get splashed or caught in rain.... and what would I do with my phone if I did?

I like the Lifeproof and similar cases, but they are bulky and expensive. Truly, all Apple would need to do is add a few O-rings / gaskets in the right places and the iPhone would survive just as well.

The sad thing about it is that there is zero short-term financial incentive for Apple to do this, so the likelihood is that they won't.

It won't stop me from buying an iPhone 6 (sorry, but Android's apps still suck), but definitely something that costs them some customers for sure.

TomServo
08-11-2014, 06:57 PM
I would agree with that analysis, I'll part with my 2 year RAZR HD w/a iPhone with at least a similar size screen.

Apple is late to the game and finally discovered folks really want BIGGER screens.

jt1968
08-16-2014, 09:37 PM
My middle-aged eyeballs have been struggling with the iPhone 5s 4" screen, so I'm eagerly awaiting the iPhone 6! I'll have to wait until both models (4.7" and 5.5') are available, to compare the two side by side, to see which one I can see better and which one is more practical, size-wise, to carry daily.

chscag
08-16-2014, 10:57 PM
That's a good point. I put a drop proof case that I purchased from OWC on my 5c but took it off after 5 days. It just made the phone too bulky to carry around in my pocket. If the iPhone 6 likewise winds up being too bulky even with the larger screen, I'll pass. Phones with larger screens and bulk seem not to be a problem for the ladies because they carry them mostly in their purse. My wife's purse is as large as a business person's briefcase. :P

WolfsBane
08-17-2014, 11:14 PM
Samsung's failing to meet sales expectations can be attributed to the specific market that they heavily target. Couple that with the Chinese dumping cheap duplicates in the market. And both LG and HTC have stepped up their products. In the higher end, Apple has stayed ahead due to their marketing plan, software and hardware integration, and the fact that their phones are still reachable from a cost standpoint. I was reading a business oriented site the other day stating that Apple was planning to increase the price of their phones, 'allegedly' in order to recover some of the cost of new innovation such as their sapphire glass. And though I understand some of the rationale, IMO, the results would be disastrous. Apple can absolutely not price themselves out of competition,and that including the US higher and mid level markets. Not when you have comparable products from Samsung, LG, and HTC hot on their heals. They may not be as polished as the iPhone, but they are excellent products in their own right and each one has at one point or another, (Samsung Galaxy S5, LG G3, and the HTC One M8), receive strong reviews from owners and technical sites as being the best mobile devices in the market today. Apple absolutely does not want to paint their products as being unaffordable in today's market.

chas_m
08-18-2014, 05:48 AM
Regarding the waterproofing: I guess that's an advantage, but I don't see even Samsung stooping to advertising their phone with "the S5 -- the phone for people who drop their $600 phones in toilets." :) I think Apple's approach on this is along the lines of "maybe be more careful with expensive things," but I imagine they will add the waterproofing chemical to their phones when it is environmentally safe to do so.

As for bigger screens: be careful what you wish for. Most of the bigger screen phones I've seen are actually *harder* to read, because they pack more resolution into the space so everything is actually smaller, you just get a lot more of it. That's why Apple invented "pinch to zoom" and prefer Retina displays (a ceiling on resolution) rather than infinitely more resolution.

WolfsBane
08-18-2014, 03:32 PM
Interesting. Another series of articles came out in business publications over the weekend stating that Apple lost some additional shares of the world mobile phone user markets over the past year. Apple continues to base it's marketing strategy to targeting legacy clientele and upper price sector, but the target market seems to be hitting a certain threshold where buyers are looking at other brands for comparison. Pricing is a huge factor. Another series of articles are bringing up a possible pricing issue for Apple, (one of them puts it this way.... "You are nuts if you think that pricing will not play a factor in the success of the iPhone 6"). Specially true in new developing markets, according to these articles.

Another interesting part was how the different Droid phone manufacturers compete among themselves at several market levels for the mobile phone market shares. And who those companies are. The articles states that Samsung seems to be the most affected by this competition as other manufacturers work to take shares of mobile devices sold away from the company. A couple of Chinese companies are coming up with some pretty inexpensive phones to attack the lower cost markets. Some of them, similar to devices released by other companies, (knockoffs).

Interesting to see how these companies jockey for market shares. They all seem to agree that the iPhone 6 is a pivotal release by Apple, (long overdue is the opinion), that can either catapult them forward or compound their losses in market shares of mobile devices.

WolfsBane
09-09-2014, 05:55 PM
Well... It's official. IPhone 6 in 4.7 and 5.5 variations came out this morning. And the only word to describe them is underwhelmed. In some ways, all Apple did was to try to catch up to the competition, and in many ways.... Not even that.

This, folks... Is a swing and a miss.

cwa107
09-09-2014, 05:58 PM
Well... It's official. IPhone 6 in 4.7 and 5.5 variations came out this morning. And the only word to describe them is underwhelmed. In some ways, all Apple did was to try to catch up to the competition, and in many ways.... Not even that.

This, folks... Is a swing and a miss.

I'm pretty jazzed about it. Really, the only disappointment is the fact that they're still bilking people for the 32GB upgrade, which should be standard.

What feature(s) were you expecting/hoping for that it's missing?

WolfsBane
09-09-2014, 11:00 PM
I'm pretty jazzed about it. Really, the only disappointment is the fact that they're still bilking people for the 32GB upgrade, which should be standard.

What feature(s) were you expecting/hoping for that it's missing?



Better design that maximizes screen size and minimizes bezel size, (LG G3 is a good example). The iphone 6 plus makes the LG look petite and it has the same size screen.
Better screen resolution and pixel density. Apple insist that most people would not notice the difference between a 326ppi and a 460 ppi screen... But I can tell the difference.
Better camera. Take away the bells and whistles, and that 8 megapixel camera is pretty dated.
Upgradable internal storage. You are right, they love to bilk us for just a few gigs of storage.
And the price that they are asking for the iphone 6 plus is a no go, sorry. There are other options out there with better specs at a more affordable price.
At least 2 gigs of ram

dtravis7
09-10-2014, 12:14 AM
The 6 Plus has great resolution but the plain 6 not as good at all.

I do agree pretty much with the points Wolfsbane mentioned in his last post.

osxx
09-10-2014, 12:36 AM
Better design that maximizes screen size and minimizes bezel size, (LG G3 is a good example). The iphone 6 plus makes the LG look petite and it has the same size screen.
Better screen resolution and pixel density. Apple insist that most people would not notice the difference between a 326ppi and a 460 ppi screen... But I can tell the difference.
Better camera. Take away the bells and whistles, and that 8 megapixel camera is pretty dated.
Upgradable internal storage. You are right, they love to bilk us for just a few gigs of storage.
And the price that they are asking for the iphone 6 plus is a no go, sorry. There are other options out there with better specs at a more affordable price.
At least 2 gigs of ram

1.) User preference
2.) Its a numbers game on these small screens on 15 inch and larger yes.
3.) I am for better cameras but increasing the megapixels without increasing other components leaves grain in the pictures as with the competition .
4.) 128GB should be more than enough for the majority.
5.) I will wait for test results in the past Apple has matched or beat the competition with less.
6.) Sure if it needs it since it uses far less than the competition it may not again a numbers game.

n1acguy
09-10-2014, 03:26 AM
I love the way iphones sync up with Macs, but I can't for the life of me understand why Apple won't allow a competent call blocker app. The call blocker they do offer is a half measure at best.
I have a jailbreak on my 5 that allows me to use iblacklist, but if not for this program I couldn't be using an iphone. I would have to go back to Android. iblacklist allows blocking of specific area codes so most of the robocalls can be blocked. Anyone who uses a cell phone for business gets robocalled to death otherwise. A versatile call blocker is a very necessary tool for me.
Superior apps from Apple?
Not really, but the hardware is fine from my perspective.
I'll be needing a new phone soon, but as it stands this is the one thing that will cause me to go back to Android.

chas_m
09-10-2014, 08:11 AM
Have any of you actually held/used/tested the iPhone 6 models?

If not, I'd suggest you reserve judgement on some of your (occasionally goofy) claims. Apple has routinely bested competition with higher "specs," and I expect that will happen again this time.

As for the camera, the 8MP to which you refer is the most popular camera in the world, bar none. If it's good enough for the National Geographic to use, maybe there's some additional info about the camera you're not considering (hint: there is).

alicepattinson
09-10-2014, 09:42 AM
iPhone 6 is a lot better than any other phones :) I am sure. hihi

cwa107
09-10-2014, 09:50 AM
Better design that maximizes screen size and minimizes bezel size, (LG G3 is a good example). The iphone 6 plus makes the LG look petite and it has the same size screen.
Better screen resolution and pixel density. Apple insist that most people would not notice the difference between a 326ppi and a 460 ppi screen... But I can tell the difference.
Better camera. Take away the bells and whistles, and that 8 megapixel camera is pretty dated.
Upgradable internal storage. You are right, they love to bilk us for just a few gigs of storage.
And the price that they are asking for the iphone 6 plus is a no go, sorry. There are other options out there with better specs at a more affordable price.
At least 2 gigs of ram


On the design aspect, I think you should reserve judgement until you actually get the phone in your hands. The concept of having little to no bezel is a novel one, but it also has its downsides - like case fitment, ruggedness and repairability.

On the screen resolution - I have a hard time understanding the concern, but then, I can't discern a difference in resolution on any of the Retina displays. This seems like more of a concern over specs than one that has any roots in practicality.

On the camera - have to disagree. It has long been known that megapixel count has very little to do with image quality once you get over a certain size. This is strictly a "my number is bigger than yours" contest that Apple isn't going to fight. My iPhone 5's now aged camera produces far better images than most modern phones. The problem is, people feel the need to have metrics to compare image quality - and unfortunately, metrics in this case, don't tell the whole story.

On the storage - I agree wholeheartedly, in this day and age of $15 32GB flash drives there is absolutely NO reason that the base model iPhone should be 16GB - particularly when these higher resolution video and still cameras are producing larger and larger file sizes. 16GB is just not enough.

On the price - Again, I agree. This field is WAY too competitive for Apple to command this much of a premium, particularly given the storage costs.

On the memory - Just as with the camera, I could honestly care less about the metrics as long as the phone performs well. Given that I have yet to run into an app that doesn't perform well on my old iPhone 5, I tend to think that the iPhone 6 has more than adequate memory.

My advice - don't get too caught up with the specs. One-upmanship rarely produces a superior product, which is kinda why the quality of Android phones is so lacking.

RavingMac
09-10-2014, 11:05 AM
On the design aspect, I think you should reserve judgement until you actually get the phone in your hands. The concept of having little to no bezel is a novel one, but it also has its downsides - like case fitment, ruggedness and repairability.

On the screen resolution - I have a hard time understanding the concern, but then, I can't discern a difference in resolution on any of the Retina displays. This seems like more of a concern over specs than one that has any roots in practicality.

On the camera - have to disagree. It has long been known that megapixel count has very little to do with image quality once you get over a certain size. This is strictly a "my number is bigger than yours" contest that Apple isn't going to fight. My iPhone 5's now aged camera produces far better images than most modern phones. The problem is, people feel the need to have metrics to compare image quality - and unfortunately, metrics in this case, don't tell the whole story.

On the storage - I agree wholeheartedly, in this day and age of $15 32GB flash drives there is absolutely NO reason that the base model iPhone should be 16GB - particularly when these higher resolution video and still cameras are producing larger and larger file sizes. 16GB is just not enough.

On the price - Again, I agree. This field is WAY too competitive for Apple to command this much of a premium, particularly given the storage costs.

On the memory - Just as with the camera, I could honestly care less about the metrics as long as the phone performs well. Given that I have yet to run into an app that doesn't perform well on my old iPhone 5, I tend to think that the iPhone 6 has more than adequate memory.

My advice - don't get too caught up with the specs. One-upmanship rarely produces a superior product, which is kinda why the quality of Android phones is so lacking.

Agree with everything you said . . . just have to add my 2 cents on the camera since photography is one of my major interests.

Nikon's top-line pro camera sports a 16MP sensor, when they could easily gone with 24, 36 or even more. Why?
Because there are always trade-offs. Increasing MPs for the same sensor technology and size automatically results in reduced ISO (low-light capability) and Dynamic Range (ability to handle scenes with large variations in color and lighting).
Also, the larger files mean additional processing burden and reduced frame rates for burst capture.

I am all for better cameras in phones, but trust me, how many megapixels it has is not one of the things I consider. 8 is more than sufficient for any reasonably sized print I am likely to do with a cell-phone camera.
If I want to produce a wall-sized mural I will be using my Nikon D610, tripod and a lens that costs more by itself than the non-contract price for the iPhone 6.

WolfsBane
09-11-2014, 12:27 AM
Well, the only responsible way to make this type of purchase is by holding the devise in your hands after careful research and consideration. Which I will do. Reviews are starting to filter in, so information is starting to become more available. We'll see.

RavingMac
09-11-2014, 07:27 AM
Well, the only responsible way to make this type of purchase is by holding the devise in your hands after careful research and consideration. Which I will do. Reviews are starting to filter in, so information is starting to become more available. We'll see.

+1

Couldn't agree more. :)

Nighthawk4
09-11-2014, 12:53 PM
Impressive.

Almost identical features to the Nexus4 - only two years later and only about 2.5 times more expensive.

No doubt people will be signing up in droves :)

chas_m
09-12-2014, 05:18 AM
.Almost identical features to the Nexus4


Funny. It's a pity you're wrong, the joke would have worked better that way.

dbm
09-13-2014, 11:45 AM
On the topic in hand, it does sound like Apple has set the world on fire, with release day stock sold out on pre-order.

I suspect there is a lot of pent-up demand for a larger iPhone which is now being served.

pm-r
09-13-2014, 02:41 PM
Impressive.

Almost identical features to the Nexus4 - only two years later and only about 2.5 times more expensive.

No doubt people will be signing up in droves :)



And finally getting closer to the Google's Nexus 5, a smartphone now about half the price of the iPhone 6.

Read more: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus vs Nexus 5: Smartphone specs compared | ITProPortal.com (http://www.itproportal.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-vs-nexus-5-specs-comparison-which-should-i-buy/#ixzz3DDXITvsn)

I know my youngest son ditched his iPhone 5 model for a Nexus 5 last year as he was getting tired of Apple's locked iOS and all the required jailbreaking stuff and still figures he's got a better useable super phone.

And no lineup or waiting for any new iPhone delivery. ;)

pm-r
09-13-2014, 03:00 PM
On the topic in hand, it does sound like Apple has set the world on fire, with release day stock sold out on pre-order.

I suspect there is a lot of pent-up demand for a larger iPhone which is now being served.



I believe that such tactics are often used to boost sales by keeping stock short and to increase any pent up demand. But it has to be used very carefully so as to avoid any large scale disappointment for which word can travel very fast, and then the technique often backfires unless it's rectified quickly. ;)

MorningWord 9/12/14: I Want the One With The Bigger GeeBees – $AAPL (http://www.riskreversal.com/2014/09/12/morningword-91214-i-want-the-one-with-more-geebees-aapl/)

WolfsBane
09-15-2014, 06:31 PM
I believe that such tactics are often used to boost sales by keeping stock short and to increase any pent up demand. But it has to be used very carefully so as to avoid any large scale disappointment for which word can travel very fast, and then the technique often backfires unless it's rectified quickly. ;)

MorningWord 9/12/14: I Want the One With The Bigger GeeBees – $AAPL (http://www.riskreversal.com/2014/09/12/morningword-91214-i-want-the-one-with-more-geebees-aapl/)

I have to agree. Its not like Apple has not already seen this cycle play out the past two years. Apple is very good at these marketing stunts, and make no mistake about it... Its all marketing.... Apple has known for month what production schedule they needed to set in order to make these devices available in sufficient quantities to the public in order to meet the initial surge. But, now we are hearing that they can't keep up with demand? Right. More likely, they are setting an artificial constraint on their logistics in order to manufacture a perceived high demand for a new product. And you are correct... some people will always be willing to wait for the new device. But others will not. It's a risky game that Apple plays, specially if early receipients give the product a less than stellar review that prompts those considering to purchase the devise to look elsewhere. But Apple has enjoyed a lot of recent successes at these marketing ploys. But give Apple props... they know the release of a new product is where they get to hook the binge buyers, and they are absolutely using this to their commercial advantage.

fleurya
09-16-2014, 11:54 PM
I believe that such tactics are often used to boost sales by keeping stock short and to increase any pent up demand. But it has to be used very carefully so as to avoid any large scale disappointment for which word can travel very fast, and then the technique often backfires unless it's rectified quickly. ;)

MorningWord 9/12/14: I Want the One With The Bigger GeeBees $AAPL (http://www.riskreversal.com/2014/09/12/morningword-91214-i-want-the-one-with-more-geebees-aapl/)

Ask any real retail sales executive if being out of stock helps sales...

You'll get a unanimous "ARE YOU INSANE?? OF COURSE NOT!"

I'm not sure why people make up these kind of fantasies. If someone really wants the phone, they'll get it. If they're on the fence and they can't get it now, they'll move on to their second option. Nowhere in the is there people no wanting to buy then phone, but suddenly wanting to just because they can't. The whole idea is supremely idiotic.

fleurya
09-16-2014, 11:55 PM
Impressive.

Almost identical features to the Nexus4 - only two years later and only about 2.5 times more expensive.

No doubt people will be signing up in droves :)

Funny you should mention a Samsung phone, because According to third party sites like Gazelle that purchase old phones, Sales of Samsung phones has TRIPLED since the announcement of the iPhone 6.

That's not just coincidence!

cwa107
09-17-2014, 08:36 AM
Funny you should mention a Samsung phone, because According to third party sites like Gazelle that purchase old phones, Sales of Samsung phones has TRIPLED since the announcement of the iPhone 6.

That's not just coincidence!

Sales or trade-ins?

WolfsBane
09-17-2014, 11:30 AM
Reviews starting to come out a week after release. They seem mostly favorable. Most of them agreeing that the software, IOS 8 and which is being released today, is the best feature. Hardware, modest but incremental.

RONE
09-17-2014, 12:37 PM
I have to agree. Its not like Apple has not already seen this cycle play out the past two years. Apple is very good at these marketing stunts, and make no mistake about it... Its all marketing.... Apple has known for month what production schedule they needed to set in order to make these devices available in sufficient quantities to the public in order to meet the initial surge. But, now we are hearing that they can't keep up with demand? Right. More likely, they are setting an artificial constraint on their logistics in order to manufacture a perceived high demand for a new product. And you are correct... some people will always be willing to wait for the new device. But others will not. It's a risky game that Apple plays, specially if early receipients give the product a less than stellar review that prompts those considering to purchase the devise to look elsewhere. But Apple has enjoyed a lot of recent successes at these marketing ploys. But give Apple props... they know the release of a new product is where they get to hook the binge buyers, and they are absolutely using this to their commercial advantage.

I strongly disagree. 4 million pre-orders on the first day.... No one on this forum can comprehend how many actual phones that is. Sure, we can imagine a pile of 10 phones, a stack of 100, maybe we can conceptualize how many phones 1,000 is. But 4,000,000 is not a number the human brain can comprehend. And that is actual orders, not counting how many are being distributed to the thousands of retail stores for day 1 purchases. Apple (Foxconn, whoever) is building as many phones as they can to handle the demand, however that level of demand is literally unprecedented. There are thousands of potential bottlenecks in producing a high-end electronic device on a different continent, and each of those can alternately limit production rates at different times. Apple is not limiting production intentionally.

red fuji
10-10-2014, 05:17 PM
apple is setting themselves on fire with the wi fi issue !!

cwa107
10-10-2014, 05:18 PM
apple is setting themselves on fire with the wi fi issue !!

What "wi fi issue"?

harryb2448
10-10-2014, 05:37 PM
And the trolls come out to play!

Lightcraftsman
10-10-2014, 09:32 PM
The only wifi issue I had with my iPhone 6 (picked up today) was having to enter the password even after transferring my settings. Mail downloads faster and web pages load faster than on my iPhone 5. Overall the phone just feels snappier. And I went from 16GB to 64GB.

lclev
10-10-2014, 09:38 PM
apple is setting themselves on fire with the wi fi issue !!

Is this in reference to the iOS 8.01 issue??? They fixed that and fast. Wish I could say that about Windows when they issue a bad patch. There solution is to tell you to uninstall the bad patch whichever one that would be out of the slew of patches they just sent you. ;)

Lisa

chas_m
10-11-2014, 02:21 AM
Remember that opening weekend in nine countries where Apple sold over 10 million units? And how that was more even than last year, when China was in the mix?

China's pre-orders just opened Friday, and when combined with the "reservations" (appointments to buy) taken earlier, China has already sold more iPhones in pre-order than the opening retail weekend total ... And they're a week from their retail debut!

World's starting to smolder ...