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macman88
09-10-2005, 10:57 PM
what do you guys think about the scion tc?

iLEFTOVERCRACK
09-10-2005, 11:07 PM
i think the xb is quite "nice" my friend has one it looks cool on the outside but inside there just an average car

speaking of cars i dented my moms van not to long ago...

mynameis
09-10-2005, 11:12 PM
Interior looks cheap, I know they expect you to customize, but the stock should be a bit nicer considering the one I saw on the showroom was stickered at over 20k.

macman88
09-11-2005, 09:46 PM
any more opinions?

sonofapplepm
09-11-2005, 10:14 PM
I have been considering buying one. It's got Toyota heritage as well as good fuel economy and a bit of sport too! I really like the looks myself. I think they are priced well, I mean there are lesser cars out there for the same money!
Hope this helps!

Josh

iNAP
09-11-2005, 10:19 PM
I think it looks pretty cool inside!

coach_z
09-11-2005, 10:32 PM
it is a nice looking car. but remember our opinion should not count....buy a car that you like and will want to drive.

the environmentalist in me says to buy a hybrid or an extremely fuel efficient car ;)

fearlessfreap24
09-11-2005, 10:45 PM
i went on a test drive with a frien who likes to auto-cross and the TC performed very well under his extreme driving conditions. he is a WRX driver and he almost bought a TC

mynameis
09-11-2005, 10:48 PM
I think it looks pretty cool inside!

It actually doesn't look so bad in that picture with the nice looking automatic shifter.

aeiou
09-11-2005, 10:56 PM
It actually doesn't look so bad in that picture with the nice looking automatic shifter.

I think thats a manual.

Anyways, that doesn't look too much different from a corrola to me, not that thats entirely a bad thing, but its nopthing special, imho.

mynameis
09-12-2005, 12:24 AM
I think thats a manual.
You are correct. I thought I remember it having a cheap rubber shift knob, maybe its a different year, package, or just my bad memory.

macman88
09-12-2005, 12:47 AM
i meant more of, what have your heard about it. i known it's supposed to have good mpg. i have also heard that is has the well tested camery engine.

Osiris22x
09-12-2005, 09:29 AM
what do you guys think about the scion tc?

It's a typical throw-away Japanese car, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It will lose its value the second you turn the ignition, however it will probably last a zillion miles and be cheap on gas and repairs.

If you like the styling and price, I'd say go for it! You generally can't go wrong with Japanese cars...

mynameis
09-12-2005, 09:35 AM
i known it's supposed to have good mpg.


It is rated at 22 city and 29 highway mpg, my truck gets better gas mileage. If gas mileage is really important to you, might want to look at a Corolla.

stillimation
09-12-2005, 01:45 PM
na dude get a jetta, but like an 05, the new model is nasty, but yea an 05 jetta 1.8t will give you more power with better gas milage, and you will have a turbo.

an 05 jetta GLi will give you 180 HP and 21/29MPG but my 03 gets a good 26

and the Scion TC will give you 160 HP and 19/26MPG

think about it man

rgivans
09-12-2005, 02:02 PM
na dude get a jetta, but like an 05, the new model is nasty, but yea an 05 jetta 1.8t will give you more power with better gas milage, and you will have a turbo.

an 05 jetta GLi will give you 180 HP and 21/29MPG but my 03 gets a good 26

and the Scion TC will give you 160 HP and 19/26MPG

think about it man

I agree, I miss my old VW! All of 5 of them. :oneye:

aeiou
09-12-2005, 11:08 PM
VW seems to have been having some quality control issues of late.

Aptmunich
09-13-2005, 02:30 AM
I'm a big fan of the original VW Beetle myself...

aeiou
09-13-2005, 09:42 AM
My vote would be for a subaru imprezza/wrx they wont get you quite as much gas milage, but they are a plessure to drive and they will be great in the winter, if that is an issue where you live.

danielbruzual
09-13-2005, 10:34 AM
It's a simple car, and you can do this:

WasabiTaylor
09-13-2005, 09:05 PM
I think the tCs are so sweet. The sun roof is huge. That's my favorite of the Scions. I think the tC has a really classy look to it. You definitely look good rolling up anywhere in that...

My vote...GET IT!!!

sevenhelmet
09-13-2005, 09:48 PM
I don't like scions. Something about the boxy appearance and all the hype over it rubs me the wrong way. IMHO, it looks like a clown car or one of those Japanese styled "city cars" for guys who sit at home watching "queer eye" while cooking weird food and shopping for clothes at obscure designer outlets nobody's ever heard of.

I'd recommend the VW, get an '03 or '04 that was a lease or program vehicle with maybe 20K miles on it. It's nicer and probably cheaper too! Heck, get a focus or something if u want economy. The Scion's 19/26 mpg isn't that impressive, my full size 1999 Taurus wagon does better than that!

Not to talk badly about Japanese cars either, Honda makes some pretty good ones.

witeshark
09-13-2005, 10:48 PM
It seems like a good car to me.

mynameis
09-13-2005, 11:23 PM
Something about the boxy appearance and all the hype over it rubs me the wrong way.

You are thinking of the xA and xB, those things are very ugly. The tC actually looks decent.

macman88
09-14-2005, 11:19 AM
this is what i am talking about.

sevenhelmet
09-14-2005, 03:42 PM
this is what i am talking about.

Ahhh... nifty. Well in that case...

It's nice to know they also make a decent looking car

:)

rgivans
09-14-2005, 04:41 PM
this is what i am talking about.

Looks exactly like a Pontiac G6.

http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Oto-Xe-may/2005/03/3B9DCB60/G6_B.jpg

TOYOTA
09-14-2005, 05:59 PM
Looks exactly like a Pontiac G6Excuse me, and no offense, but these cars are FAR from "looking exactly alike."

1. Four door sedan v Two door tC

and [the most striking difference]

2. Pontiac v Toyota [the latter will last you about 500,000 more miles after that GM falls apart and the engine stops running :doctor: ]

You simply cannot beat the Toyota quality - hands down - there is no competition is regards to quality. I highly suggest you go tC. You will love the ride, comfort, power, and reliability.



Not only is the tC a little cheaper than the Jetta, I would not trust VW quality right now at all. They have been having many problems recently. Like I said nothing is going to come close to Toyota reliability.

As for stillimation's HP claims... go do the research for yourself...

The Jetta's base 2.5L inline 5 engine comes 150HP @ 5000RPM stock. This is of course, the base engine, with the top of the line engines comes a much higher price tag.

The Scion tC's base 2.4L inline 4 engine comes 160HP @ 6000RPM stock.

Although the Jetta's higher end engine is going to produce a little higher power, HP has got to be the most overrated thing on a car today. When people with very minute car knowledge discuss cars, they usually turn immediately to HP. HP is not everything, in fact it is far from it. For example, take a gander at the weight:

Jetta: 3285 lbs
tC: 2905 lbs

Not that any of this information is that crucial in comparing these cars, because someone looking for a new daily driver to transport them should be looking for reliability and a long lasting, good quality car. You find these qualities with Toyota. Go Scion tC, you will not be disappointed. Good luck and good day sir.

stillimation
09-15-2005, 08:29 PM
http://www.theresnotomorrow.com/08/waipio003.jpg

http://www.theresnotomorrow.com/08/waipio004.jpg

need i say more???

danielbruzual
09-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Need I say more :p

BigBear
09-15-2005, 11:27 PM
yes everyone should have plasma screen pop out of the trunk ;)

my ex-girlfriend has a tc. it's a sweet little car. i really liked the large sunroof but i kinda felt cramped. for toyota's i definitely like the body styling over say the celica.

stillimation
09-16-2005, 01:14 AM
dude what was done to that jetta i bet costs about half the price of what was done to that tC, and yes VW is one of the most roomiest (well in the front seat) because the front seat can go all the way back. i am 6'4" and i fit like a dream where as all the other smaller cars there is no chance

Aptmunich
09-16-2005, 01:51 AM
Car nerds...

stillimation
09-16-2005, 03:12 AM
Car nerds...

i prefer the term "Performance Junki"

Aptmunich
09-16-2005, 04:48 AM
Alright then:
Performance junki...

stillimation
09-16-2005, 11:45 AM
thanks

mynameis
09-16-2005, 01:11 PM
"Performance Junki"

Then what are you doing driving a VW?....

stillimation
09-16-2005, 01:24 PM
right now i am in a 01 VR6, stock it pushes 200HP and about 195 ft lbs, but i am about to get an 03 GLi turbo and it gets 318hp at 10Psi, i dont see why every one thinks VWs are slow, i have taken every civic that i have come across (evan the 3ast ones) in my stock VR6 (auto tranny) with no problem

rgivans
09-16-2005, 02:20 PM
http://www.theresnotomorrow.com/08/waipio003.jpg

http://www.theresnotomorrow.com/08/waipio004.jpg

need i say more???


Exactly. :black:

mynameis
09-16-2005, 02:25 PM
People think they are slow because the highest model is only 200hp stock.

Street racing is worthless, you need to go to a track.

PowerBookG4
09-16-2005, 03:50 PM
ok... personally I like the tC... but I do have to say that there are VW's out there that do have performace and high end engines.. for example the phaeton has a W-12... not to say that the jetta has any performance but higher models out tehre of VW do... I use to destroy all Jetta's out there street racing with my audi

stillimation
09-16-2005, 04:33 PM
dude street racing is for queers, just becuase i have a fast car does not mean that i have to race it, if some idiot really wants to "go" i tell him to meet me at the track

mynameis
09-16-2005, 04:42 PM
dude street racing is for queers, just becuase i have a fast car does not mean that i have to race it

You mentioned racing Hondas but didn't mention times, so I assumed that meant a street race. Do you do 1/8th or 1/4?

alexmaccoll
09-16-2005, 04:53 PM
Lol, dude that VW rocks! They look just like the ones we have over here in UK, except they call them "Boras".
You guys are acting as if 200hp is a little! My step-dads Jaguar Produces 260hp and runs just fine, however my mums city car produces 88hp, and, well, doesn't...
Alex

mynameis
09-16-2005, 07:29 PM
You guys are acting as if 200hp is a little!

It is plenty, but pretty standard when it comes to sedans in the US in the 20k-25k price range. Its not hard in the US to find cars with well over 300hp.

PowerBookG4
09-16-2005, 10:28 PM
It is plenty, but pretty standard when it comes to sedans in the US in the 20k-25k price range. Its not hard in the US to find cars with well over 300hp.

300 is still way the bottom end where I live...
Considering people in my town are mostly driving V12 engines... such as ferraris, BMW's, and Benz....so year.. what ever car you are talking about there is almost always a car that has more power then it.. 200hp is not alot, but then again.. its not little either.

mynameis
09-16-2005, 11:00 PM
300 is still way the bottom end where I live...

Where in Jersey do you live? Sounds like So-Cal.

PowerBookG4
09-16-2005, 11:01 PM
Livingston.. right next to short hills, alot of people might know short hills because of the short hills mall.. very nice mall, and not to mention theres an apple store in it. 2 miles from my house.. the perfect spot for a apple store, lol

mynameis
09-16-2005, 11:04 PM
Around Indy, seeing a Ferrari is a rarity. That would be awesome to see stuff like that all the time.

macman88
09-17-2005, 12:38 PM
within 3 miles of my house i have a ferrari and maserati dealship.

mynameis
09-17-2005, 12:58 PM
within 3 miles of my house i have a ferrari and maserati dealship.

I don't think there is even one Ferrari dealership in the entire state of Indiana.

stillimation
09-17-2005, 08:04 PM
i run a low 14 most of the time, it is not great but for stock that is not to shabby

macman88
09-17-2005, 08:12 PM
i run a low 14 most of the time, it is not great but for stock that is not to shabby

do you have pics?

danielbruzual
09-17-2005, 08:32 PM
"torque is for driving, and horsepower is for bragging"
lol

I like cars a lot, and fuel costs are not an issue here cause it costs $0.04/litre but I think I'd settle for a Renault twingo (85hp; I'm still a teen don't need more than that).

macman88
09-17-2005, 10:44 PM
that can't be right that is cost .$04/liter. its about 3.79liter/gallon, your saying it cost you like .15$ a gallon. that is the cheapest thing ive ever heard of.



****i guess i was wrong. i really don't understand it but ok.

may 04
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/price.html

aug 05
http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/19/news/international/global_gasprices/

mynameis
09-17-2005, 11:57 PM
i run a low 14 most of the time, it is not great but for stock that is not to shabby

Thats really good for such a big car with only 200hp.

stillimation
09-18-2005, 12:21 AM
mmhmm, it has 185 Ft Lb, that helps alot and it is German, thay are all about enginereing,

and here are some old pics, they when i first got the car, but i havent really changed
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/DuncMan/Jetta_7_9_05/corner2.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/DuncMan/Jetta_7_9_05/back.jpg

and that is a little photoshop nonsence, yea i got board
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/DuncMan/PScorner2_dropped.jpg

mynameis
09-18-2005, 08:48 AM
Looks good. I like the look of the stock 04 GLI, looks better than the new one even.

PowerBookG4
09-18-2005, 10:16 AM
yeah, i hate the new jeta... I don't know why but it just strikes me as ugly.. that one (the 04 GLI) is a good looking car.

stillimation
09-18-2005, 11:14 PM
my car is an 01 GLS, i am working on getting an 03 GLi, and yea the new jettas a GAY, VW was trying to pull in the soccer mom Toyota croud, (which they are) but all the loyal old school VW peeps arent diging it

macman88
10-07-2005, 08:27 PM
i just ordered my scion tc. auto, side air bags, shift knob, pedals, mud guards, led kit, b pillar, rear bumper protector. i gave 3 choices for the color, flint mica, black sand pearl, and classic silver. the dealer said 4-12 weeks. hopefully it will come sooner.