3G - can't jailbreak/unlock it?

I heard that Apple lost a lot of money by people hacking/jailbreaking and unlocking the iPhone so they're trying to fix it by making the iPhone unhhackable by a computer or software but that you have to take it apart and connect or do something with wires and the inner software. Is that true?

They didn't expect the current iPhone to be jailbreakable/hackable to begin with. No matter what they do, someone will find a way around it.

Run-on sentence. My English teacher would have a fit. J/K

On a side note:
Like lifeisabeach said. Every time someone tries to prevent a hack a new one is made to circumvent it.

mixxey said:

I heard... [...]Is that true?

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Since it's not out yet, and no-one outside of Apple knows anything about it yet, I'd say you'll have to wait and see.

Just to be clear, Jailbreaking and unlocking are two totally different things. Jailbreaking simply lets you add third party applications to your iPhone. There would be no loss of revenue. Unlocking on the other hand breaks the tie to AT&T so you could use the iPhone on another network. Unlocking costs Apple money because they get monthly kickbacks from AT&T on those contracts. Though they probably will try to tighten security the phone will still have to be able to be unlocked. Once your contract is up AT&T is obligated to unlock whatever phone you have if you request it.

dakineyj said:

Once your contract is up AT&T is obligated to unlock whatever phone you have if you request it.

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are they really i never heard of that. thats sweet if its true.

dakineyj said:

Jailbreaking simply lets you add third party applications to your iPhone. There would be no loss of revenue.

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There will be loss of revenue when the app store is up.

I'm willing to bet the hackers will have the 2nd generation iPhone unlocked with in a matter of hours.These people have become very good at hacking the iPhone.

kkelly122 said:

are they really i never heard of that. thats sweet if its true.

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Yes its true, same goes with all wireless carriers. The days of exclusive deals between cell phone manufactures and wireless companies is nearing its end. But be prepared to pay full retail cost of phones

You may enjoy reading this:

http://gizmodo.com/366751/iphone-20-unlocked-runs-all-apps

Interesting that development team must really keep Apple on there toes.... I guess will be getting the new iPhone the day it comes out.

bargsbeer said:

I'm willing to bet the hackers will have the 2nd generation iPhone unlocked with in a matter of hours.These people have become very good at hacking the iPhone.

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They already have, the 'devteam' have firmware 2.0 jailbreaked and unlocked ;D

I have read somewhere that the alleged 2.0 firmware is said to be very hackable. I think apple is going to be cramming things in to fix the final 2.0 update.

I'm sure those things will be included in the new iPhone. I'm curious to see if it they will have to actually hack the new phone itself.

they? who is they "bergsbeer"

The Iphone development team.

Ok Im sure they are working with the new one right now. Im also sure they have some sort of team dedicated to try to hack the iPhone so the developers no how to fix it with firmware updates and what not.

No doubt,Apple and AT&T saw over a quarter million iphones sold since June 2007 that where never activated with AT&T. I'm sure they don't want a repeat of that this year. IMO AT&T was bad choice.

Imo? sorry not familiar with that term.
But yeah Apple Im sure has fixed it i think they should set up a Bricker in the new iTunes if it jail-broken or hacked BRICKED! easy solution follow the rules

j21m2293 said:

Imo? sorry not familiar with that term.
But yeah Apple Im sure has fixed it i think they should set up a Bricker in the new iTunes if it jail-broken or hacked BRICKED! easy solution follow the rules

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Actually that wouldn't even help. The dev team made a program that essentially "patches" the firmware file and then you load the patched firmware onto your phone via iTunes. So, it was much different than a typical hack in that sense. iTunes had safeguards for keeping "patched" firmware from being allowed to load via iTunes, but they broke those safeguards, probably without breaking a sweat.

There's guys out there working on the dev team as smart or smarter than the guys who actually made the software, so it will always get hacked sooner or later. It's a never-ending cat and mouse game.

As for the 250,000 phones that never activated to AT&T, I'm sure apple secretly doesn't care much. They got all the revenue they were going to get from the iPhones activated and their slice of the monthly AT&T bills. The revenue from the people who wouldn't have bought it if they couldn't unlock it is just a bonus for Apple in both sales revenue and increased exposure. (real life product exposure to consumers and word of mouth advertising is the best way to sell your product)