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  1. #31
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    Face it. Computers, including everything from Apple, are now appliances. You buy them for what you need. We don't customize our refrigerators, or upgrade our ovens, or change the software in the toaster or washing machine, we just use them. Computing is becoming the same thing. You get a machine that does what you want, when it doesn't do that any more, you get a new one.

    It's ALWAYS about profits, but in this case, it's just that the technology has moved along to the point where our vision of these devices needs to change to the appliance view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    Yes sir Ashwin. The price of that 18 core iMac Pro will be interesting! And yes...it would seem that the Mac Pro line at best may be on life-support.

    Comparing the Mac Pro and iMac Pro from the creative professional standpoint. I think a lot of creative professionals (video & graphics folks)...who work in the big office buildings of the big cities around the world...are the sort that don't really care about what's "inside". They just want to put "gas in the car"...and get from point A to point B.

    And maybe if the performance of the iMac Pro is justified by saving time (less rendering hours spent on video & graphics projects)...the companies employing these folks won't care about the price either. Will be interesting to see benchmarks for the iMac Pros!

    I'd like to know what the cooling system is like in an 18-core iMac Pro with top level graphics. Hopefully doesn't sound like a 747 at takeoff!

    - Nick

    p.s. I know Lisa (iclev) will disagree with me what I said above (at least in her case). lol
    I don't disagree with what you said. I actually agree with you. I just happen to be one of those who like to "tear into" a machine to customize it. That won't be as easy with the iMac Pro. I do believe the days of the big silver box are over for the Mac Pro - . It seems Apple wants to create disposable products not user upgradeable ones, which is opposite their green agenda standing.

    You are correct when you say most people just want a computer to work fast and have no issues with no effort on their part to maintain it. I do think cooling will be an issue with the iMac Pro especially when it is really being stressed. Yesterday I was encoding video, working in Photoshop, and still had Premiere open with a large project I was working on. The heat my MP was putting out was making the room a/c work to keep the room cool. So I wonder how they are going to address the heat issue. My MP is totally quiet even when it is being stressed. I would not like the sound of a 747 in my room!

    We shall see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lclev View Post
    I do think cooling will be an issue with the iMac Pro especially when it is really being stressed. Yesterday I was encoding video, working in Photoshop, and still had Premiere open with a large project I was working on. The heat my MP was putting out was making the room a/c work to keep the room cool. So I wonder how they are going to address the heat issue.
    The newer design Mac Pro (the black trashcan)...is a pretty powerful computer (CPU & GPU). I watched some You Tube stress tests with it...and even stressed out...it's very quiet. Which goes to show a powerful computer doesn't have to be loud (fan noise). Of course this was with a completely redesigned computer.

    With the new iMac Pro...it appears that Apple is still working with the same iMac design. So unless the CPU's and GPU's used in the new iMac Pro are extremely cool running (even when stressed)...it would almost seem to be a given that the new iMac Pro when stressed...would almost have to be kind of loud (we shall see).

    Or at least the folks that can afford $4999+ will see/hear! Lol

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    Following the iMac Pro Nick and early reports are it has a re-designed cooling system with an additional fan.

    Time will tell and praying for a great dividend come February.
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    I have a friend who uses a 2013 MP trashcan to edit video and create print media. He works at the local cable tv station I take our weekly program to. He loves it and for him, upgrading is not a concern. When it comes time he will pass his MP down to an underling and order the newest latest greatest. It will be interesting to see what that will be.

    I on the other hand, will probably be using my trusty silver MP or trolling eBay for a used newer edition. If the iMac Pro should pan out to be the machine they are claiming it will be I might be trolling for one of those. The $4999 cost for a new one is a bit steep for a lowly media creator working for a non-profit.

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    Interesting thread about the new iMac Pro and noise. However, there are several threads on other forums about how noisy the new 2017 iMacs are. Lots of complaints about the fans revving up to high rpm even during light work. I suspect the more powerful graphics cards in these new 2017 iMacs add to the noise level.

    Apple isn't helping the situation by making these new iMacs thinner and thinner with less room inside for cooling.

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    Get with it guys.

    Apple has always had expensive products. In 1991 I paid over $2,500.00 for an original LC complete with 8MB of memory and a 128MB hard drive, what a novelty that was I will NEVER fill it, and an RGB monitor. Now 26 years ago, by my calculations that $2,500.00 would have to be about $9,000.00 today. Us older folk thought we had it made when we hit the $750.00 a week salary range. Kids start on that now.
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    Wow, new iMac Pro is a pretty cool idea!

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    The new iMac Pro is pretty cool but it would be good if it is not that expensive...

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    Hello friends,
    I know Apple products are generally expensive, when I bought my Mac last year, I saved 1500. I think if I changed to the latest current model, it's about 2000!

    In the posts above, you mention fan noise, well I don't hear any noise with my Mac.


    Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    I think the new iMac Pro is a pretty cool idea (an area that hasn't exactly been explored)...and could be an interesting alternative to a Mac Pro. Of course there's the non-upgradability factor. But then again...the new 2013 Mac Pro wasn't super upgradeable either.

    And of course a $4999+ iMac Pro is certainly targeted at professional level users (or individual users with wayyy too much cash).

    Might be nice to get one of these used in 2-3 years when prices drop!

    - Nick
    would you say it will drop more than 40% ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellymac View Post
    would you say it will drop more than 40% ?
    No, it will not. But eventually it will make its way to the refurbished store where you will get about 15% of the retail price. But assuming the model continues to stay in the lineup, the current generation one will always stay at retail pricing.

    The only place you will see any sort of dramatic decrease is if you go the used market (and not refurbished). But that's risky.
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