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    MacBook Pro Upgrade
    I have a 15", mid 2012 Retina MacBook Pro with 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 processor, 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 memory, Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB. I recently bought a 4k monitor on sale and am eager to upgrade to a compatible Macbook Pro to go along with the monitor. There is a sale for Macbooks right now on AAFES and I am thinking about taking advantage. Admittedly, I do not understand the subtle differences in specs between all of the new models and my old model. Hence, this post.

    I am considering these models:
    13 inch
    2.3GHz Processor
    256GB Storage
    2.3GHz dual-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor
    Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
    8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
    256GB SSD storage1
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640
    Two Thunderbolt 3 ports

    13 inch
    Touch Bar and Touch ID
    3.1GHz Processor
    256GB Storage
    3.1GHz dual-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor
    Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz
    8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
    256GB SSD storage1
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650
    Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
    Touch Bar and Touch ID

    15 inch
    2.2GHz Processor
    256GB Storage
    2.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor
    Turbo Boost up to 3.4GHz
    16GB 1600MHz memory
    256GB SSD storage1
    Intel Iris Pro Graphics
    Two Thunderbolt 2 ports

    15 inch
    Touch Bar and Touch ID
    2.8GHz Processor
    256GB Storage
    2.8GHz quad-core 7th-generation Intel Core i7 processor
    Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz
    16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
    256GB SSD storage1
    Radeon Pro 555 with 2GB memory
    Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
    Touch Bar and Touch ID

    Basically my questions are:
    (1) If I go with a 13 inch, would I be downgrading in specs at all from what I have now in any way other than screen size?
    (2) If I go with the basic 15 inch, am I downgrading in specs at all from what I currently have (going from 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 to 2.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7... not sure I understand the difference or if the quad-core negates the loss of 0.1 GHz)
    (3) Between the sexiest 13 inch on my list (not considering the 512 GB version) and the most basic 15 inch, what has the edge in specs? I guess I don't care all that much about the Touch Bar, although I'd be happy to hear suggestions.

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    Easy answer is...5 years with computers makes a BIG difference. Going from a 2012 to a 2017 computer is a big step/jump.

    The only spec that is a little bit of a downgrade from your 2012 15" MBP...is going from a quad-core CPU to a dual core CPU in a new 13" MBP. Thing is...depending what you do with your 15" MBP...you may not even be using all 4 cores most of the time (just two cores). Thus getting a new 13" MBP with a dual core CPU may not be a downgrade. A new 13" MBP will be better than a 2012 MBP in almost every way. Again...5 years makes a big difference!

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    2011 15" MBPro, 2013 13" MBAir, 2010 MacPro, iPhone X
    1. 13" models have dual-core processors and the 15" models have quad-core processors.
    Your current i7 processor has a geekbench score of 9928.
    The 13" i5's - could not find a score for the 2.3Ghz but the 3.1Ghz has a score of 7610.
    The 15" i7's - 2.2Ghz has a score of 12197 and the 2.8 has a score of 13747
    The higher the number the faster the processor. It is up to you to decide what computing power you need.

    2. See above scores. All the score I listed include the number of cores.

    3. Basically screen size and processor speed.

    I got all the information from a free app called MacTracker. You can get it in the app store and compare models.

    For what it is worth - I would go for the last 15" MBP you listed. I like the Radeon graphics card and it would IMO drive your monitor nicely. If you can do it, I would bump the SSD up to a 512GB because you can never have enough storage.

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    Thanks for the advice. I can get the last one on the list (option 4) for $1982 with no tax or shipping right now from AAFES. Is this a good deal? How fast do prices for the latest version of Macbooks go down? Would it be worth waiting until Black Friday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpToTheMoon View Post
    I can get the last one on the list (option 4) for $1982 with no tax or shipping right now from AAFES. Is this a good deal?
    Have you visited Apple.com to see what the regular prices are? Regular price for this computer is $2399. The AAFES deal is a "kick-butt" deal!

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpToTheMoon View Post
    How fast do prices for the latest version of Macbooks go down?
    Most of the time zero. The price basically never goes down. It is what it is until the next newer model release happens. If you're looking to save some additional cash...the Apple refurbished area is where to go. But...the price you're getting from AAFES for a brand new computer is probably better than the Apple refurbished area.

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpToTheMoon View Post
    Would it be worth waiting until Black Friday?
    I doubt it. Apple really doesn't reduce the price of computers for Black Friday.

    - Nick
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    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
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    Have you visited Apple.com to see what the regular prices are? Regular price for this computer is $2399. The AAFES deal is a "kick-butt" deal!
    I'm very familiar with AAFES prices (being military retired) and do not know where he's getting that price from. AAFES very rarely undercuts Apple prices by that much; usually it's around $100 to $150 at the max. I visit the Navy Exchange often enough in Fort Worth to be familiar with their prices also. And they like AAFES, very rarely reduce Apple prices by that much. Of course a big advantage is no state tax which in Texas amounts to 8.5% (Fort Worth area).

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    2011 13" MBP 2.3ghz, 8gig ram, OS 10.8.5
    That AAFES discount did seem pretty deep knowing Apple's normal reluctance to discount much from the Apple Store prices. Maybe we can get clarification.

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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